What we want is what you got

[Blitzkrieg]

With stick construction and glass windows you are one Molotov from disaster

Those who have not read of Carlos Hathcock's story should buy this and read it. A one or two man team with skill and nerve can wreak havoc

Marine Sniper: 93 Confirmed Kills: Charles Henderson: 9780425103555: Amazon.com: Books

 

[gunfreak]

Kind of like when ranchers hang dead coyotes on there fences. It works for them too.

In 'The Road' there is a description of a farm house with human heads skewered on the picket fence, apparently some marauders are less stealthy than others

 

[Bam]

If you have night vision, they could have night vision.

If you think you are well armed, they might have BMGs, RPGs, or even a f`ing tank!

If you think you have training, they could have former special forces people.

Remember Ruby Ridge? Waco? The Alamo (not that the Alamo deserves to be lumped in with the fools at Waco) but all these show what happens when a superior force converges on a point and you'd be better off on the offense than the defense. And if you think a superior force will never come, you're a stupid fool. You might think you're the best, but eventually someone better always comes along.

The people that will survive a complete downfall of society will be the ones that lay low and out of sight. If you're in a place where others will cross path, THEY will come.

 

[mrblond]

I have the feeling that only a very small % will have night vision and a much.. much lower will have access to Therms. if those that are hitting you have therms, you may as well just put your hands up and try to join them.

I am hoping to be able to afford a Thermal sight in the next few months that could put me a bit ahead of the curve

 

[Blitzkrieg]

If you have night vision, they could have night vision.

If you think you are well armed, they might have BMGs, RPGs, or even a f`ing tank!

If you think you have training, they could have former special forces people.

Remember Ruby Ridge? Waco? The Alamo (not that the Alamo deserves to be lumped in with the fools at Waco) but all these show what happens when a superior force converges on a point and you'd be better off on the offense than the defense. And if you think a superior force will never come, you're a stupid fool. You might think you're the best, but eventually someone better always comes along.

The people that will survive a complete downfall of society will be the ones that lay low and out of sight. If you're in a place where others will cross path, THEY will come.

Hey look, stuff happens, but I have learned to be unafraid of men because most are buffoons. They may have NV but be complete idiots in their camp deportment. NV requires

1) Batteries

2) Operational skill

3) Deployment skill

4) If assaulting a domicile, the ability of the rounds to penetrate

Remember we are talking civilian scum squads. No one is going to stand for long against concerted military assault, which will be rare if you are talking US troops

 

[mrblond]

Hey look, stuff happens, but I have learned to be unafraid of men because most are buffoons. They may have NV but be complete idiots in their camp deportment

This.. you just have to be willing to pull the trigger on theses guys, and i'm sorry but when my survival is in line, I will shoot 1st and dig a hole or feed the coyotes 2nd

 

[Blitzkrieg]

No hesitation, no remorse if you are scum and can hurt me or mine

 

[mrblond]

I agree 900% If you are or even if I think your a threat, bang..thats it. men, women or children.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Usually it's the males, though

 

[erudne]

It's my opinion that the drug gangs will be equipped with mil spec goodies (they have the money to buy it) and are absolutely ruthless

 

[Sgt Nambu]

Nice tats on your face there! I'm going to spoil them!

 

[Sgt Nambu]

It's my opinion that the drug gangs will be equipped with mil spec goodies (they have the money to buy it) and are absolutely ruthless

If we can buy it, so can they. I'd bet most of them got their hardware long ago.

 

[simon99]

Most "gangs" of people are undisciplined and untrained. Invest in a rifle that can reach out and touch someone, install quality optics, learn to use some ballistics software and keep a dope card with your weapon....then practice, practice, practice. A few well placed shots from long distance and any group will quickly lose heart. Learn to become a force multiplier.

 

[U201491]

It's my opinion that the drug gangs will be equipped with mil spec goodies (they have the money to buy it) and are absolutely ruthless

They become absolutely meek when the ones on each side, of them, heads explode.

 

[stratbastard]

Oh yeah, especially those sneaky 3 year olds toddling up with a load of C4 in their diapers.

I agree 900% If you are or even if I think your a threat, bang..thats it. men, women or children.

 

[erudne]

Most "gangs" of people are undisciplined and untrained. Invest in a rifle that can reach out and touch someone, install quality optics, learn to use some ballistics software and keep a dope card with your weapon....then practice, practice, practice. A few well placed shots from long distance and any group will quickly lose heart. Learn to become a force multiplier.

I hear this many times from PPL that have never lived along the Mex border, they have NO idea what's coming across every day and what's poised SOTB. The entire Mex nation is ruled by and paid for with drug dollars, Billions of dollars a year and a port paid for and dedicated to Chinese super cargo ships that bring in weapons
As to Drug Gangs; they are the bottom rung of the Cartels, cannon fodder, the boys w/face tats come next and then the real soldiers arrive; Very well trained soldiers, not that the 1st and 2nd wave don't have tacticle direction.
At it's heart Infantry Warfare has not changed in 10,000 years and Raiders always have the advantage over a complacent defense. Raiders don't need to listen for a genny or a truck, they draw a square on a map set-up a control zone and follow every road to it's end, hit every home. With Google earth it's a snap, with Census data they can hit the richest 1st, if they are told to do so.

 

[Sabertooth]

They become absolutely meek when the ones on each side, of them, heads explode.

You just killed the dudes brother of friend, don't count on meek, now the guy is pissed and well burn your fort down just to get even.

 

[erudne]

Metz France is a fortified city that never fell to direct military action. With the community behind the effort a neighborhood could be militarized starting w/ barricades, concrete dividers elevated positions etc, but one must make contacts and relationships now

 

[Blitzkrieg]

You just killed the dudes brother of friend, don't count on meek, now the guy is pissed and well burn your fort down just to get even.

Hard to burn down re-enforced concrete after you've used up all your heavy stuff over a 1500 mile invasion path, North

 

[Dunerunner]

You just killed the dudes brother of friend, don't count on meek, now the guy is pissed and well burn your fort down just to get even.

I don't think that would happen after you yelled ...... "NEXT!"

Now that they know your capabilities, they may re-group and try again.