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I am a safe technician at a dealer.are you a dealer?
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I am a safe technician at a dealer.are you a dealer?
He was in one of the large towns in MT. Said he could beat the price on the Labor Day sale through Liberty. Turned out to be more than the on-line offer. We were going to go with it anyway, then he quotes us $2325 for delivery minus installation. We canned the deal and went with a Rhino Bighorn. He called back and suddenly he had one like we wanted only 45 miles away in a different warehouse... but the deal was already done. We paid less for the Bighorn and installation than the Liberty safe. It has a lot more space. We really wanted the Liberty but the deal kept wiggling around.... size; color; model.... and then the cost of delivery. The Rhino came from Caldwell, ID with free shipping.What kind of slipperiness? What dealer was this?
I had an electronic lock in the past and wondered about an EMP and decided to just change it out. Can't say I miss it. I can get into the manual safe in about 12 seconds. If I need anything in there any faster, then I guess I should've had it out already.
Electronics now are not even the same as they were 4-5 years ago. They have advanced a lot, and I can honestly say the top models have 4x the use and opening ratings of their predecessors. I open about 18 locked out safes a month, and maybe end up actually drilling about 5 of them. Most of the time it's drilling 3 elocks and 2 dials out of that 5.
It is split about 50/50 between lost combos or a failed lock unit.Why do you typically have to drill a dial lock, forgot combo or mechanical reasons?
interestingobservation.....one is perfectly preventable via preparing for potential loss of combo, while the other is a given eventuality.It is split about 50/50 between lost combos or a failed lock unit.
the gearing gets worn down, and why many are built to resist dirt, the dials and can develop a grind to them. I was unsure on electronics myself but seen dials fail to work at times too.
No argument here, just reporting my own experience:
just from my own 'dial vs button' history:
I had a mid-level Liberty for 27 years, opened average of once a day x 365 x 27 years= 9855 times estimate, with ZERO failure to function [DATA point A]
Traded for larger mid-level Liberty with electronic brain running things....opened average of once a day x 365 x 3 years = 1095 estimate, before making first failure call to the Mfg hot line. Then another couple years with average of failure/call tech help at least 4 times/year, and always with the concern of actual lock function failure independent of EMP etc... add another 1095 openings with great anxiety of "will it open THIS TIME???".....[DATA POINT B]
final absolute failure/call of on-site safe tekkie to replace failed lock. So I had somewhere around 20% the service function (opening the lock) from my whiz-bang keypad silicon wonder.
Out with the bad chip, in with the doomed-to-eventual grindy-dial style. I should live so long....
Comparing data point A with data point B....musing & wondering off to read about Cascadia Subduction Zone now.....