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Don't see the problem with handloaded ammo, although not for me.
I would not stuff Chinese fortunes in the hollow points, though.
I would not stuff Chinese fortunes in the hollow points, though.
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There's plenty of precedent if you look. Here's a breakdown on 4 cases where it caused problems:
Cases Where Handloads Caused Problems in Court by Mas Ayoob
It is relevant because you have to prepare.It's all irrelevant unless you're put in the situation.
Relevance of whether or not to modify a firearm and if you are going to be hung out to dry because of doing so. Also as I said; that it can be argued either way. Just like how people are doing so right now in this very thread.It is relevant because you have to prepare.
Or at least you should.
I don't use handloads but then I don't know how to roll my own.
I cant imagine it's impossible to make a good product you can trust.
After all it's not rocket science.
Wait. I don't know? Is it rocket science?
Relevance of whether or not to modify a firearm and if you are going to be hung out to dry because of doing so. Also as I said; that it can be argued either way. Just like how people are doing so right now in this very thread.
Quoting part of my post without the whole content of my post allows for people to get the wrong information.
That's also why I put the 6 different statements. These statements are things that one is doing in advance. Therefore they are preparing.
Definition of PREPARATION
At our shop we have a standing cash offer to anyone who can show court documentation that modifications to a firearm used in a defensive shooting were used to prosecute the gun owner.
Cool story. Bullbubblegum, but still a cool story. If you read this thread there are many citations of cases where a modified gun caused trouble.
Cool story. Bullbubblegum, but still a cool story. If you read this thread there are many citations of cases where a modified gun caused trouble.
Why the sarcasm? There's people talking about handloads, when the original question was about modifications. Am I missing something? I'm addressing the OP regarding modifying a carry firearm. My position is that it's not a thing. Do you think that modifying a defensive firearm will get a person in hot water legally? Show me something to quantify your position, I can't prove a negative. Do you think that it won't? Cool, then we agree.
Cool story. Bullbubblegum, but still a cool story. If you read this thread there are many citations of cases where a modified gun caused trouble.
Of course there is some truth to it. ANYTHING is possible. But how often do you actually hear about it happening and happening to the point that it changes the outcome of the case for the worst? Can you find a case? How about 5 cases...or 10?
There are modifications and then there are MODIFICATIONS. Certainly if you lighten your trigger to two pounds on a carry gun and then ND into a burglar, you're probably going to have some problems in court.
However...and this is just my opinion...I will make any REASONABLE modification to a carry gun that helps improve my odds of survival so that I'm alive to make it to court in the first place. Surviving the gunfight is my first priority.
Accordingly, I will change sights, grips, barrels, even do trigger jobs...again...within reason. I'm also of the opinion that a good attorney can counter most of what might come up in court.
Example:
DA: I see here Mr. Cabo that you lightened your trigger to 4.5 lbs. Clearly this shows you are a blood thirsty murderer.
My Attorney: My client IMPROVED his trigger to help ensure he was better able to hit his target and not hit an innocent party down range. While his trigger is a bit lighter than some, it is still heavier than what comes from the factory of many gun manufacturers...Wilson Combat being one of those that ships their guns with a trigger lighter than 4.5 lbs.
And...and this is the big part...I'm willing to take my chances and accept the outcome. If you are not, then don't do the mod.