I have not said anything about stating that a gun is or is not in the vehicle. Only about informing the officer that one is a CHL holder. And not verbally, but by presenting it with my DL. I am only relating my personal experience and what has worked for me. That's the last I'll comment on the issue. You all can debate rights if you want.
I completely understand and respect that. We all have different experiences and outlooks on scenarios. And I am with you on arguing rights. I'm not gunna waist my time.
Friend, I'm glad you're paying attention. I did not say a vehicle search. Fourth Amendment is not limited to physical searches. Mere interaction with a LEO is subject to the 4th Amendment constraints. Pulling a person over for no apparent reason is a violation of the 4th Amendment. Hence when you give them a reason to pull you over, you effectively give up some of the 4th Amendment protections. You can further get down the rabbit hole by having something in plain view that can escalate to a vehicle search, and so on. I hope me spelling it like we're in the 5th grade and haven't covered the subject like a million times makes it easier for others to digest.
I'm not saying be an a$$ to LE. But I am reserved and only answer questions that pertain to the situation. After working in LE I watched people bury themselves without even knowing they were doing so. It's great for cops though. I'll attest to that.
Now this I agree with. I think I misunderstood your original premise. My apologies.
I don't think we will see any challenges until the vote is certified, at the earliest. They might wait until it goes into effect in order to have standing, but I am not a lawyer, much less a constitutional lawyer.
It has to go in effect AND be enforced, so one can show damages thus having standing you've mentioned. Also not a lawyer though
Follow Firearms Policy Coalition on twitter if you have it. They aren't useless like the NRA and have good lawyers. They have stated they have the lawsuit ready to file. https://www.firearmspolicy.org/
There may be some papers crafted that challenge the validity of the measure itself, like if it violated the established process or something. But there can't be anything drafted to challenge the individual elements under say 2A until there is at least one person whose rights are affected.
In addition to what others may suggest, I'd recommend this:
Don't they run your plates before they get out of the car?
In many jurisdictions they run your plates before they even think about pulling you over
ANPR (ALPR) - Automatic Number (License) Plate Recognition.
That wasn't my impression. But I haven't been pulled over in quite a while and technology changes rapidly. The incident I related where the officer got pissed at me for not telling him was probably pretty close to 20 years ago.In many jurisdictions they run your plates before they even think about pulling you over
I don't think so. A fixed mag SKS only holds 10 rounds.
On the ride alongs I've been on, the plates were ran before exiting the car. This is at least how they were all done when I was along both times roughly 18 and 20 years ago.
