Oregon Oregon measure 114

[oregonPlinking]

This state is banana sandwich. How can people be this dumb?

Measure 114…DANGEROUS, MISLEADING, EXTREME -

The Portland Media Wants You To Think This Is Just About "background checks." We've had those for decades.They are deceiving you. You've seen the headlines. You may have lived them yourself. Violent crime in Oregon is skyrocketing. Police are not responding. Even Oregon's most liberal...

stop114.com

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[E4mafia]

Well ahead of ya.

Oregon - Oregon Ballot Measure 114 – Magazine Ban and Permit To Purchase Firearms — Vote NO!

All Oregonians, take notice, Ballot Measure 114 (spawned from the successful initiative petition 17) will be on the ballot this November. If it passes (YES on 114), Oregon will become one of the most restrictive States in the Union when it comes to our 2nd Amendment rights. Most notably...

www.northwestfirearms.com

We got the main thread stickied, now we're on a mission to help spread the word to vote no on Measure 114.

 

[solv3nt]

Readers respond: A gun owner for Measure 114

Letter to the editor

www.oregonlive.com

What a crock of BS.

 

[E4mafia]

Nice article from a fudd.

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

@E4mafia nailed it. The article oozes fudd energy.

Once again they use a person who happens to own a gun as an example for gun-guys (and girls).. like those idiots that chop up their firearms on camera.. they may as well light money on fire to better virtue signal.

Firearm ownership has little to do with hunting. I loath that they always try and connect the two.

 

[solv3nt]

If Paul Shively is on this board, kindly delete your profile and stop spreading this garbage.

 

[E4mafia]

Analysis: Historical Texts Show Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms Isn’t an NRA Invention

What did 19th-century Americans think of the Second Amendment?

thereload.com

 

[TTSX]

Here's hoping Paul Shively of Portland sees the biggest buck of his life and misses the shot, only to see the same buck in someone else's pickup on the way home empty handed. Here's hoping Paul Shively of Portland needs 11 rounds to save his life but only has 10.

Screw Paul Shively of Portland

 

[Connor Murphy]

Don't hold back, how do you really feel?

 

[solv3nt]

Oh yeah, to the Bend Mayor Pro Tem in favor of this drivel, as soon as your PD only needs ten rounds to save their lives will I give up my magazines. Pound sand.

 

[solv3nt]

Don't hold back, how do you really feel?

We need to get this boy drunk to get his real opinion

 

[nwslopoke]

Unless Oregon confiscate every firearm in the state and somehow block all guns from other states, all they can hope for is some new gun owner or illegal gun owner (criminal) doesn't try anything.

Basically a worthless idea that won't work as advertised AND per usual, it comes with zero guarantee of my safety. It actually makes me less safe.

 

[E4mafia]

It effectively turns us into a "may issue" state as far as owning/buying a gun goes.

OSP with oversight from lawmakers are legally allowed to change the requirements at anytime. So whatever the measure says now could change over night or on a whim. They hold the final decision.

Have fun appealing it too considering they again get to decide if you're valid to own or not and there is no limit on how many times they can appeal your appeal and run you into financial ruin while they have unlimited tax payer dollars.

Basically the plan is to take NY and CA's concealed carry (thinly veiled) special need but putting it behind owning/buying guns AFTER you meet a specific criteria and if you are determined to be safe to do so, at their discretion (whatever that may be or include beyond the training course).

HARD NO
From Bruen ruling - though this pertains to concealed carry.

"We know of no other constitutional rights that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need,"
"That is not how the First Amendment works when it comes to unpopular speech or the free exercise of religion. It is not how the Sixth Amendment works when it comes to a defendant's right to confront the witnesses against him. And it is not how the Second Amendment works when it comes to public carry for self-defense."

 

[Librarian]

At a guess, it may be this Paul Shively, an Oregon Healthcare Authority program manager

Mr. Paul Shively
Oregon Health Authority
Re: Equity Plan Attestation Statement

Dear Mr. Shively,
By Tuesday, May 18, we expect that more than 65% of Deschutes County residents age 16 and older will have
received a first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine. Per Governor Brown's request, we are submitting the attached
Equity Plan to you for your review. We respectfully request State approval to move into the low risk category of
the State's public health framework on May 21.

https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=017270664345420165392:hlpaoij-wts&q=https://www.oregon.gov/oha/covid19/EquityPlan/Deschutes.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjY7cTsweX6AhUDAd4KHe4OCZUQFnoECAAQAg&usg=AOvVaw3uMAhZlUn9eNIAZKaH9VSi

My, an OHA drone supporting more government control. Quelle surprise!

If it's the correct Shively, of course.

 

[Nosferatu]

Ghost written by a Soros backed organization, if I had to guess.

I could pick a random name off the 'net to put to a citizen submitted op-ed piece as well.

 

[Librarian]

Ghost written by a Soros backed organization, if I had to guess.

I could pick a random name off the 'net to put to a citizen submitted op-ed piece as well.

Presuming the paper follows the procedures it publishes, the 'citizen' would have to be a willing participant - they say they check.

But 'here are talking points for letters' - sure, quite likely, I think.

 

[3MTA3]

Once again they use a person who happens to own a gun

No different than the age old "some of my best friends are black" tactic followed by reasons to prevent the CRA from passing.

 

[tkdguy]

Does anyone know if this 114 model was tried and passed or failed in places like California or New York or Conn.?

 

[Librarian]

Does anyone know if this 114 model was tried and passed or failed in places like California or New York or Conn.?

I know.

California, sort of.

CA's FSC program is paperwork, but no training required.

CA's 2016 Prop 63 added language to make possession of 'large-capacity magazines' illegal; that's the subject of the CA lawsuit Duncan vs Bonta which has ruled that provision unconstitutional, but it's back at the US District Court for now.

 

[Caveman Jim]

If Paul Shively is on this board, kindly delete your profile and stop spreading this garbage.

He's probably on ifish.net, lots of blue faces there.