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The Bren 2 Is great, but it is heavy.Bren 2, which I can't afford and haven't tried
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The Bren 2 Is great, but it is heavy.Bren 2, which I can't afford and haven't tried
Yeah and why would you want to haul around a bren 2 when you could carry some kind of M1 variant like half this thread prefersThe Bren 2 Is great, but it is heavy.
I wouldn't carry the Bren 2, which is why I sold it, but some love it. I wouldn't carry an m1 variant, because it's heavy, old and has lots of wood. It's preference.Yeah and why would you want to haul around a bren 2 when you could carry some kind of M1 variant like half this thread prefers
The ideal SHTF rifle is ancient, heavy, with lots of wood
mini 14 for me too, because that is what is in the safe.OK, I'll say it
Mini-14
I remember I coulda got a mint Johnson (giggity) for $600 back in the day.I wouldn't carry the Bren 2, which is why I sold it, but some love it. I wouldn't carry an m1 variant, because it's heavy, old and has lots of wood. It's preference.
If the AR is not an option, it is because it was banned. That means likely all other semi autos would likely go with it. Most non ARs would likely be deemed the same.Say there is a reason why something AR is a no-go for a primary preparedness carbine for whatever reason — bad experience with them, legal reasons, just prefer something else, the Intergalactic Space Pickles abducted all the ARs, or whatever. What would your choice be for a self-loader as a primary rifle/carbine?
For this inquiry, anything goes assuming:
What would it be and why? What upgrades would you put in place? Thanks for sharing!
- Is a self-loader; semi-automatic or select-fire.
- It is not an AR-pattern rifle.
- Magazine or clip fed.
- In an appropriate caliber (e.g., 5.56x45㎜ NATO, 5.7x28㎜ FN, .30 Carbine, 7.62x39㎜ Soviet, 7.62x51㎜ NATO, 5.45x39㎜ Soviet, .30'06 Springfield, et al.)
- Is legal and at least somewhat available to individuals in the Pacific Northwest.
(This question isn't completely random. Early last year I encountered an issue that brought this to the fore. Original thought was an M1A Tanker, with good glass, a pile of magazines, and the big silencer attached to said. Backup idea was a CETME-L, fed from existing STANAG magazines, and, maybe, hang the 5.56㎜ can from said. Then I forgot about it and wandered away for a spell. Then, bizarrely, found the answer in the M1 Carbine and now on a hard target search for an M2. Though I'm not going to kid myself that the search is ever really over. Beep-beep.)
Damn! I didn't think I needed any more guns.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STANAG_magazine
- Ares SCR
- Armalite AR-180B
- Beretta AR70/90
- Beretta ARX-160
- Beretta Rx4 Storm
- Bernardelli VB-SR
- Benelli MR1
- Bofors Carl Gustaf Ak 5
- Bushmaster ACR
- Bushmaster M17S
- CETME Model L
- CZ BREN 2
- Daewoo K1
- Daewoo K2
- Daewoo K3
- Daewoo K11
- Diseños Casanave SC-2005
- EMERK
- FAD assault rifle
- FAMAS G2
- Fateh assault rifle
- FN F2000
- FN FNC
- FN Minimi/M249 SAW
- FN SCAR-L
- Fort Ellis XR-86[14]
- FaB 556
- Heckler & Koch G41
- Howa Type 89
- IMBEL IA2
- IMBEL MD2
- IMI Negev
- IMI Tavor TAR-21
- IWI Tavor X95
- IWI Galil ACE N
- Kalashnikov SR-1
- Kel-Tec PLR-16
- Kel-Tec RDB
- Kel-Tec SU-16
- KH-2002
- LAPA FA-03
- Magpul PDR
- MKEK MPT
- MSAR STG 556 "E4 Model"
- MSBS Grot
- Nabi assault rifle
- Norinco QBZ-97
- Norinco Type 03 assault rifle (export models)
- Pindad SS1
- Pindad SS2
- Pindad SS3
- Robinson Armaments M-96 "Expeditionary Rifle"
- Robinson Armaments XCR
- Rung Paisarn RPS-001
- SA80
- SAR-21 (export models)[15]
- SAR-80
- SR-88
- SIG 556
- Sterling SAR-87
- Leader T2 MK5 rifle
- Type 65
- VB Berapi LP06
- VHS
- Vulcan V18
- Type XT-97
- XM29 OICW
- Zastava M85
Uh, yet to see ?More types of firearms we have yet to see will become available. Pump actions, lever actions, etc.
No, it's NOT an AR-15 type rifle!Would a brn-180 be considered an AR patterned rifle?
Had one, wasn't a fanTNW aero survival rifle in 10 mm is the one I'm looking at.
Aero Survival Rifle, Glock 9mm, 10mm, 40S&W, 45ACP, 357SIG, 460 Rowland | TNW Firearms
Chambered in 9mm, 10mm, 40S&W, 45ACP, 357SIG, 460 Rowland and compatible with Glock magazines, the Aero Survival Rifle from TNW Firearms is perfect for home defense and outdoor enthusiasts.www.tnwfirearms.com
If your really feeling risque get an Ak in 5.45An AKM variant in 7.62x39.