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I have been to 2 gun stores in Istanbul. Spoke to the staff there. It is possible but takes work.
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Yes, he is trying but They won't give them up too easily.
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Meh... I know people get convicted over what the textbooks and the internet might say, but any person that has any practical knowledge holding a fighting subject in a choke knows 2 things.... time can be dilated (IOW, outside of a normal mans perceptions)... and hardly no choke hold is "textbook" no matter what your weekend warrior training guru's all taught you or what you see in the movies.
Even if your time perception is perfect, men struggle, holds can be temporarily compromised to allow for sporadic/partial blood flow restoration that can and will require more time for the desired affect. Some folks simply have improved blood circulation and O2 saturation... IOW, simply more resilient.
I think you take-away from the "3 minute rule" is that it is trying to teach that it takes a lot more than you think and be prepared for a prolonged experience. It's not uncommon at all to hear, "that guy would just NOT go down".
I do think though that there is likely some merit to the arguments that the intentional attacks against good people stepping up when needed is, in some cases, planned and orchestrated. Discourage ALL from intervening. The intent and affect seems pretty evident even around here. "The risk is too great and never intervene unless you yourself are in direct and violent threat."
After all, the fewer people that step up... the easier it is to implement more gun control... and the people become even more reliant on "gooberment"... exactly the way they like it!
I think it's quite sad though. When I was growing up we were always taught to defend those that could not defend themselves... and it was a general "rule" held by all... not the exception.
I get it. Times change, but even around here, we see this theme brought up over and over on a regular basis and it's exceedingly more rare that you read anyone saying anything but "duck and cover.. only act to defend yourself". The liberals seem to be training up our society just fine, don't they. We're indoctrinating ourselves and our fellows these days.
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It truly depends on the scenario and multiple other elements whether I would interject myself or not. I won't set my actions in concrete one way or another. I'll just do my best to prepare mentally, physically and emotionally for what may unfold in front of me or within a close proximity to me.Meh... I know people get convicted over what the textbooks and the internet might say, but any person that has any practical knowledge holding a fighting subject in a choke knows 2 things.... time can be dilated (IOW, outside of a normal mans perceptions)... and hardly no choke hold is "textbook" no matter what your weekend warrior training guru's all taught you or what you see in the movies.
Even if your time perception is perfect, men struggle, holds can be temporarily compromised to allow for sporadic/partial blood flow restoration that can and will require more time for the desired affect. Some folks simply have improved blood circulation and O2 saturation... IOW, simply more resilient.
I think you take-away from the "3 minute rule" is that it is trying to teach that it takes a lot more than you think and be prepared for a prolonged experience. It's not uncommon at all to hear, "that guy would just NOT go down".
I do think though that there is likely some merit to the arguments that the intentional attacks against good people stepping up when needed is, in some cases, planned and orchestrated. Discourage ALL from intervening. The intent and affect seems pretty evident even around here. "The risk is too great and never intervene unless you yourself are in direct and violent threat."
After all, the fewer people that step up... the easier it is to implement more gun control... and the people become even more reliant on "gooberment"... exactly the way they like it!
I think it's quite sad though. When I was growing up we were always taught to defend those that could not defend themselves... and it was a general "rule" held by all... not the exception.
I get it. Times change, but even around here, we see this theme brought up over and over on a regular basis and it's exceedingly more rare that you read anyone saying anything but "duck and cover.. only act to defend yourself". The liberals seem to be training up our society just fine, don't they. We're indoctrinating ourselves and our fellows these days.
And Zimmerman has proven himself such a model citizen since. Lol. That guy is a pile.
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You mean like Kyle Rittenhouse the HERO?!?!?!
Don't get me wrong it was self defense 100% but could have been completely avoided. Just a stupid kid.
Flame suit on.
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It doesn't help that the right props him up like some hero out doing the Lord's work. The same way the left has propped up George Floyd as some kind of saint when in all reality he was also a piece of sh!t (doesn't mean I think he deserved what he got).
Can we all just acknowledge that mistakes were made in all of these scenarios. Learn from it and move on. Let's not make it something bigger than it is for some political clout.
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Had to log out and make sure you weren't replying to someone that has me on ignore before I hit the "like" button
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Not talking about getting guns there, I am talking about the person who rules Turkey and how it is ruled. There is more to a country than whether it is remotely possible to get a gun.
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This is why I won't let my mom wear a red dress.
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Another Vet gets thrown under the bus.
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Portland security guard sentenced to life in prison for Delta Park Center shooting
Logan Gimbel, who fatally shot Freddy Nelson Jr. in 2021, will be granted the possibility of parole after serving 25 years.
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why didnt the mall security guy just call the police?Another Vet gets thrown under the bus.
Portland security guard sentenced to life in prison for Delta Park Center shooting
Logan Gimbel, who fatally shot Freddy Nelson Jr. in 2021, will be granted the possibility of parole after serving 25 years.
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He had to make sure the trespassers knew he had a bigger d!ck I guess.
Another shooting that could have been easily avoided.
I really have no sympathy for individuals who have zero emotional control and immediately begin to shoot. Military, LEO, security guard, etc. doesn't mean anything or give you a hall pass.
If anything you should be calm, cool and collected with high stress/first responder experience.
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