What Do You Think?

[rick benjamin]

Hunker down, 2021 is not an election year

 

[Jasonanddeonna]

As my old auto shop teacher would say and it'll probably be censored... It's all a bunch of "Horse bubblegum".

The biggest problem is just being negative.




Team SpaceX for the win, sorry for the random reference, lemme dig up the link:

Enjoyed the video. It does a great job of outlining the differences and reasons behind them. I think it demonstrates a great example of what can be achieved when we utilize the "melting pot" and people strive to be the best they can. Not perfect or without problems, just willing to learn, grow, and move forward.

 

[Jory45acp]

Hunker down, 2021 is not an election year

Honestly scary to think of what potential it has to be for the American way of life. We're slowly becoming more and more used to or numb to the constant change of values/rules/morals that what is to come for those not asleep can be a living nightmare. Saying that makes me sound like a Liberal Karen but I say it from a conservative stand that America as we know it is lipping from our very grips before our eyes.

 

[Stomper]

I actually think a war might be just what we need. That will galvanize us and give us somewhere to point all the extra energy.

Not to mention taking out some trash and strengthening the gene pool a bit.

 

[revjen45]

1) "Time to invade Annex Canada."
Jawohl! Anschloss mit Kanada!

2) When it seems like all is doom and gloom I just think of that great quote by a confidante of Tricky Dick.
"No matter how paranoid you are, what they are actually doing is worse than you can possibly imagine."
_Ralph J. Gleason
And I feel better.

 

[cookie]

The 1960s were worst. there is the whole New world order , one world government end time thing working.

 

[cookie]

I think the CIA is going to rope India and china or india and Pakistan into conflict with each other, and we can make some money selling both sides weapons.

Both nations make thei own weapons. I can see India buying China made weapons because they are cheaper.

 

[Meridian7750]

Forget Canada, invade Iceland. Pettier girls.

Well, they might be more petty, but at least they're better looking!

 

[MannyGlocks]

MechN,

Suggest that to the residents and home owners who were looted and burned out.

It'd be interesting to hear their feedback...

 

[CountryGent]

I think that if we stopped giving into hysterics and fear and just lived as free people, we'd all be a whole lot better off and a whole lot happier

Indeed. Even despite all the craziness of this year, historically speaking, we living in amazing times with unprecedented opportunity. The average person has in his or her pocket a device with access to information, communication, and entertainment that the wealthiest of potentates of times past couldn't even have dreamed of.

 

[1371JarHead]

Well, they might be more petty, but at least they're better looking!

No way Canadian chicks are uber hot...one of my exes, a long time ago..sigh, where has the time gone.

 

[NW Backpacker]

It seems to me that if our enemies, Russia and China in particular, were of the mindset, it would not take much to cripple/defeat us right now. A cyber attack and a few tactical missles/nukes on a few major cities and DC would probably finish us as a first world super power.

They can take out as many cities as they want. Sadly, in many cases, they'd be doing us a favor. Nuking cities does not affect our nuclear arsenal. They'd be incinerated within an hour, and they know it.

Our enemies are here among us rioting, looting, burning, assaulting people, killing police and in general doing everything they can to destroy the nation, and they are having great success. Good people cannot stop them because of idiotic leftist laws that will punish them for protecting their lives or property.

My wife and I were just talking about this "lose-lose" situation no matter the vote or outcome.

@Jasonanddeonna, I see it as a clear-cut example of a "win-lose" situation on many levels, but since this is NWFA, just look at the gun rights issue: The LOSE side: Every presidential candidate on one side has vowed to "take away your guns" and "make gun manufacturer's liable for gun crime". The WIN side: The other side has vowed to put as many pro-gun rights judges in federal courts and the US Supreme Court as possible, and for the past 3.5 years has done exactly that.

Easy choice, right?

 

[cookie]

I would bet a large part of society would like cradle to grave government daddy caring for them. Being under somone jack boot would make them feel secure.

 

[CuddlyBear]

We have:

* A novel virus creating governmental and civil issues
* Pandemic ruining the state and federal economies
* Racial protests and rioting
* Hostility between socioeconomic and political proponents
* High unemployment
* Bernie Sanders Socialist Supporters, SJWs, and anti-America sentiment
* Heaven help us if we have another Cat 5 hurricane or other major natural disaster

It seems to me that if our enemies, Russia and China in particular, were of the mindset, it would not take much to cripple/defeat us right now. A cyber attack and a few tactical missles/nukes on a few major cities and DC would probably finish us as a first world super power.

I think you missed a big one here which is the November election. Probably the most contentious in history.

Foreign interference/propaganda is already rampant and there are many valid questions surrounding election security. I suspect that a large percentage of the country will not accept the results as legitimate, regardless of who wins. There are some fun scenarios you can war game here. I'll start with my personal favorite, though probably not the most plausible:

Biden wins the election. Trump cites foreign interference and illegal/illegitimate/faked mail-in ballots and refuses to accept the results of the election. He declares his intent to remain in office until another, legitimate election can be conducted.

Biden, meanwhile, begins to establish his government. Cabinet picks, etc. A rift forms within the executive branch as to who the legitimate leader is (reminder: Trump has installed people of similar ideologies in these roles over the last four years). Some side with Trump, some side with Biden. Same for the states - some accept the election results, some reject them.

The Guaido/Maduro situation in Venezuela is an interesting case study.

 

[mkwerx]

Here's a slightly different tact that was brought up on a podcast I was listening to this morning.

Nov comes. A bunch of states pledge their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of how their state's election results turn out. In a close vote - Trump repeats 2016 winning the electoral college while Biden has a handful more popular votes. A state like Michigan votes for Trump, but Whitmer pledges the state's electoral votes to Biden because he won other states and had a few million more popular votes.

Trump says "can't do that" and sues to stop it. Whitmer or whoever says "oh yes I can" and now you have two camps claiming victory, both claiming they won the electoral vote. SCOTUS would then have to decide who wins. Regardless of how they rule, half the country potentially thinks the election is invalid and stolen. Now it comes to counting heads. The podcaster ponders that in order to maintain some level of peace, the military removes Trump before SCOTUS rules, as riots and "protests" break out across the US.

In a similar vein to @Catherine1 - now you have two camps assembling their cabinets / leadership, and you have division among the ranks and now we're in a civil war. Trump would be the legitimate Commander in Chief till January 20th - but the podcaster posited that maybe the generals would overthrow him and remove him from office to appease the rioters. Scary proposition.

With how much the Constitution has been ignored and trampled on this year, and in recent history, and the average person not giving a damn, you have to wonder if those of us who care about it, and about our liberty are in the small minority. I will say that regardless of how 2020 turns out - 2024 is going to be far, far worse. I don't envision a peaceful transfer of power in this country ever again, unless the commies who have been burning cities and trying these "autonomous zones" are jailed, killed, or driven from the country. They have ratcheted up the violence, they're actively attempting to tear down our government from both the inside and outside, they're trying to erase history - and the majority of Americans seem OK with it.

 

[titsonritz]

No way Canadian chicks are uber hot...one of my exes, a long time ago..sigh, where has the time gone.

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I was married to hot Canadian once upon a time, she turn out to be just big slut.

 

[CuddlyBear]

Here's a slightly different tact that was brought up on a podcast I was listening to this morning.

Nov comes. A bunch of states pledge their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of how their state's election results turn out. In a close vote - Trump repeats 2016 winning the electoral college while Biden has a handful more popular votes. A state like Michigan votes for Trump, but Whitmer pledges the state's electoral votes to Biden because he won other states and had a few million more popular votes.

Trump says "can't do that" and sues to stop it. Whitmer or whoever says "oh yes I can" and now you have two camps claiming victory, both claiming they won the electoral vote. SCOTUS would then have to decide who wins. Regardless of how they rule, half the country potentially thinks the election is invalid and stolen. Now it comes to counting heads. The podcaster ponders that in order to maintain some level of peace, the military removes Trump before SCOTUS rules, as riots and "protests" break out across the US.

In a similar vein to @Catherine1 - now you have two camps assembling their cabinets / leadership, and you have division among the ranks and now we're in a civil war. Trump would be the legitimate Commander in Chief till January 20th - but the podcaster posited that maybe the generals would overthrow him and remove him from office to appease the rioters. Scary proposition.

With how much the Constitution has been ignored and trampled on this year, and in recent history, and the average person not giving a damn, you have to wonder if those of us who care about it, and about our liberty are in the small minority. I will say that regardless of how 2020 turns out - 2024 is going to be far, far worse. I don't envision a peaceful transfer of power in this country ever again, unless the commies who have been burning cities and trying these "autonomous zones" are jailed, killed, or driven from the country. They have ratcheted up the violence, they're actively attempting to tear down our government from both the inside and outside, they're trying to erase history - and the majority of Americans seem OK with it.

That's an extremely interesting thought. The other scenario that could play out is that, without a clear elected successor to the Presidency, that the succession plan is activated. That would make Nancy Pelosi POTUS. I think we can use our imaginations as to how that would go over.

 

[CuddlyBear]

, I see it as a clear-cut example of a "win-lose" situation on many levels, but since this is NWFA, just look at the gun rights issue: The LOSE side: Every presidential candidate on one side has vowed to "take away your guns" and "make gun manufacturer's liable for gun crime". The WIN side: The other side has vowed to put as many pro-gun rights judges in federal courts and the US Supreme Court as possible, and for the past 3.5 years has done exactly that.

Easy choice, right?

The SCOTUS, just a couple weeks ago, didn't grant cert to ten 2A cases covering everything from carry rights to AWBs. I don't think installing judges is as surefire a path to 2A victory as it's painted, because we never know exactly where a particular justice is going to fall on an issue. I'll bet nobody expected Gorsuch to author a majority opinion expanding LGBTQ rights.

Trump banned bump stocks, and recent rumor has it that his ATF is coming for pistol braces. Trump also supported red flag laws. He's not an outright enemy of the 2A, but certainly is no friend.

 

[Aero Denezol]

I'm sure many of you have seen this before.

 

[cigars]

I am a reformed conspiracy addict.
For 30+ years I read, shared, and fretted about every potential black cloud theory no matter how unlikely or infeasible it might have actually been.

About 20 years ago, I took stock of just how many times I had actually been accurate in making those dour predictions of gloom and destruction.

It turned out my accuracy rate was indeed measurable...at ZERO percent....despite a growing social disorder from the bland 1950s of my youth & a raft of daily 'news' to support my anxieties.

Now some things didn't happen that I wanted to, and many things did happen that I didn't foretell. In retrospect, it was a nothing more than a low budget hobby of delusion and selective focus.

In all, my hobby was like predicting gravity and down, without giving attention to sunrise and blue sky.

Good luck with your visions. Hope they have a good outcome.

Sigh. Do I at least still get to ammo up?