Vegas shooter's car

[Certaindeaf]

Everyone knows you can carry a ton in a Vega(s), (yea I know it's a Pinto)..

 

[KKG]

Come on, where was the Lead Sled? unpossible

I've fired more automatic weapons than I care to admit and I Never saw a need for one of those toys for the untrained. In fact, as they pulled me up out of the standing foxhole, a few years ago, they said 35,000 rounds! That should be enough. FWIW, I used the very same M-16A1 for the entire string.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Anyone here ever go through MOUT training in the military?
Urban Terrain Combat Training | Gound Combat Training | Cubic Corporation

Yes...Once at Ft.Ord and another time at Berlin.
Where the training paid off for me was During Operation Gothic Serpent in 1993.
Andy

 

[Certaindeaf]

I've fired more automatic weapons than I care to admit and I Never saw a need for one of those toys for the untrained. In fact, as they pulled me up out of the standing foxhole, a few years ago, they said 35,000 rounds! That should be enough. FWIW, I used the very same M-16A1 for the entire string.

I've never used one either.

 

[KKG]

I've never used one either.

Now that wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Yes...Once at Ft.Ord and another time at Berlin.
Where the training paid off for me was During Operation Gothic Serpent in 1993.
Andy

yeabut the price tea in chiner? what an out of context question

 

[Certaindeaf]

Now that wouldn't surprise me.

Two peas in a pod. titter
Oh, edit.. so you said that only the trained should use a lead sled? oof

 

[Nicholi2789]

Two hands. Two guns. Empty one, pick up the other. Also echo off the Luxor

Yeah that was a thought that I hadn't considered. The effect of the sound traveling over that distance would definetely cause some distortion and delay in the reports.
I don't think the two hands two guns theory is plausible though, especially with ARs supposedly equipped with bump stocks at those ranges.
The glass thing is definitely a mystery though. Somebody had to have noticed pieces of inch thick glass raining down on the sidewalk...

 

[clearconscience]

Wouldn't be all that hard. Besides it said he made several trips.

Either way sounds like a leftist setup.
Just like the guy that shot up the republican softball practice.

 

[Goosebrown]

Yeah that was a thought that I hadn't considered. The effect of the sound traveling over that distance would definetely cause some distortion and delay in the reports.
I don't think the two hands two guns theory is plausible though, especially with ARs supposedly equipped with bump stocks at those ranges.
The glass thing is definitely a mystery though. Somebody had to have noticed pieces of inch thick glass raining down on the sidewalk...

And do you think the big news that instant was about glass falling out into the shrubbery or the fusillade of automatic weapon fire into a crowd of 22,000?

Conspiracies are always wrong.

 

[EPS]

You three guys need to go back to the beginning of the thread and start over we covered everything you just talking about

 

[Mark W.]

People did notice glass raining on the cars below.

And he had 23 weapons in the room whos to say one wasn't a 12ga shotgun with a breaching choke and a 3.5" Slug. Pretty damn sure that would take out that window ASAP.

As to being able to haul 23 weapons in a car heck there is nothing that says he didn't make a couple dozen trips.

to the people who can't see how this guy could do this I have a simple answer.

Its only because you either don't have his imagination or maybe that you haven't spent months thinking about how to best do something like this.

I drive dump truck in a 10 hour day I have to actually concentrate on my job maybe an hour that leaves one heck of a lot of time to ponder what ever I feel like pondering. I would assume someone who spends his time playing video poker or some other game would have even more time to Ponder.

 

[uscsoldier]

yeabut the price tea in chiner? what an out of context question

Since you are taught about weapon echo how is it "out of context" but then again I'm violating rule nume one "never argue with an idiot "

 

[Certaindeaf]

Since you are taught about weapon echo how is it "out of context" but then again I'm violating rule nume one "never argue with an idiot "

Big 10-4 on that, O gothic serpent master. Did they teach you how to triangulate your bat ears good there or somethin?

 

[Jabba]

Doesn't sound like echo here, sounds like a string of automatic fire interspersed with a different rifle:

 

[bbbass]

Again I go back to my other post why take the time and effort to smash out two windows witch by the way are very thick and heavy probley took a lot of effort unless he had some sort of glass cutting tool they say a hammer lol go take a hammer and see how long it takes you to break out your car window

Not the same kind of glass. Windshield has two layers with a layer of transparent plastic sandwiched in between. They absorb a lot of the energy that way and hold together when they do fracture. Remember the old car glass? ... Shattered into a zillion small pieces... different kind of glass than is used in windshields today. However, flat side windows may be returning to single pane tempered glass.

Yes, safety/tempered glass is very hard. But obviously not unbreakable. Think shower stalls but thicker. Not submarine thickness. Tempered glass cannot be cut with a glass cutter:
"The heat treatment process for
tempered glass requires that all fabrication be completed prior to toughening.
Any attempt to cut, drill, grind or sand blast the glass after toughening may result
in glass breakage."

Height alone will have a bearing on glass thickness as follows:
Above 60meters a thickness of 8mm is required for tempered glass, however standard glass would be required to be 19mm.
As noted previously, windows that extend to within a distance less than 18" above the floor are required to be tempered glass. From my reading it is common to use 10mm tempered glass which appears to be sufficient for wind loading etc.

 

[RVNvet]

Every car in my family has a carbide-tip glass breakout hammer. Given the research this maniac did, I'm sure he had something similar to use on the windows.
Max
https://www.amazon.com/Tools-Life®-...=1507767751&sr=8-1&keywords=window+break+tool

 

[Ruger Rich]

I did not see every news report but even more curious than a 64 year white multimillionaire in questionable health committing mass murder on US citizens is what car did this guy drive. Supposedly 10, I mean 23 guns, 50 lbs of tannerite, 1600 rounds of ammo still in the car not counting those in the room. Cases or boxes to carry all that...I have a newer Ram 1500 and I couldn't fit it all in. What car is was he driving?

 

[Ruger Rich]

I did not see every news report but even more curious than a 64 year white multimillionaire in questionable health committing mass murder on US citizens is what car did this guy drive. Supposedly 10, I mean 23 guns, 50 lbs of tannerite, 1600 rounds of ammo still in the car not counting those in the room. Cases or boxes to carry all that...I have a newer Ram 1500 and I couldn't fit it all in. What car is was he driving?

Possibly he made multiple trips from a stash location.

 

[Ruger Rich]

Recall the years and years, and it continues, of speculation on the Kennedy assassination. To this day there are many who cant believe those shots were made from that distance, with that weapon, and from that distance on a slowly moving target. I suspect Vegas will be deliberated for perhaps as long.