Seattle car owner shoots car thief, charged with murder.

[Catfishmoon]

Seattle man accused of chasing, killing would-be car thief, prosecutors say

A 27-year-old man was fatally shot in October after prosecutors say he tried to steal an SUV. The SUV's owner is facing murder and attempted murder charges.

www.seattletimes.com

Another story where a person with a valid concealed carry permit chased and shot a would be car thief.
Car owner now in jail facing murder one charges.

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[Knobgoblin]

Ehhh....

 

[Nosferatu]

Lots of stupid in that chain of events.

 

[It-That]

Looks like a murder. His actions are indefensible one after another and it sucks because it fuels the far left media frenzy that frames that this is what gun owners are like. If we don't condemn gun related criminals to try to defend gun rights, we just make it easier for them.

 

[Member 34319]

Maybe it is just that it's early, but I'm kind of sick of criminals getting off with a slap in the wrist and people who are forced to become their own police officers as the city defunded their police get put away for life.

It's as if a DA somewhere realized there is no money in arresting criminals and suggested they pull resources and watch as those that have money take justice in their own hands. Then profit once again.

 

[Alexx1401]

Sometimes I feel for the shooter on these. This one, if it really is as the story tells it? The guy is a moron who needs to be locked up for a long time.

 

[It-That]

Maybe it is just that it's early, but I'm kind of sick of criminals getting off with a slap in the wrist and people who are forced to become their own police officers as the city defunded their police get put away for life.

It's as if a DA somewhere realized there is no money in arresting criminals and suggested they pull resources and watch as those that have money take justice in their own hands. Then profit once again.

It's always been this way. Police aren't saints in the matter. They get privileges from the courts in exchange for carrying out their orders.

 

[FireArm]

In Texas a guy just used an AirPod to find his stolen truck and shot the thief. I don't think any charges were brought up.
Screw Washington.

 

[street]

In Texas a guy just used an AirPod to find his stolen truck and shot the thief. I don't think any charges were brought up.
Screw Washington.

Other guy shot first IIRC

 

[jjfitch]

A wise man will learn the use of deadly force laws in their jurisdiction before making the decision to take the life of another person!

 

[FireArm]

A wise man will learn the use of deadly force laws in their jurisdiction before making the decision to take the life of another person!

A dumb thief will fück around and find out.

 

[jjfitch]

A dumb thief will fück around and find out.

OK, and you will go to prison!

 

[titsonritz]

A wise man will learn the use of deadly force laws in their jurisdiction before making the decision to take the life of another person!

Life should be taken only in the gravest of extreme, at which point does it make a difference what the law says?

 

[jjfitch]

Life should be taken only in the gravest of extreme, at which point does it make a difference what the law says?

That's a good question for your attorney!

 

[granola01]

So how do you guys reconcile the fact that the WA state constitution says that you can use "reasonable force" to protect your property or the property of others? What level of force would be considered "reasonable"? A punch, a bat, a taser? If nothing is go in to be considered reasonable, have the stones to just come out and say, "you don't have a right to protect your stuff…"

 

[Flintlock Tom]

So how do you guys reconcile the fact that the WA state constitution says that you can use "reasonable force" to protect your property or the property of others? What level of force would be considered "reasonable"? A punch, a bat, a taser? If nothing is go in to be considered reasonable, have the stones to just come out and say, "you don't have a right to protect your stuff…"

The guy (thief) stole the radio and messed up the ignition switch then ran away. Chasing him down and shooting him to death does not seem "reasonable" to me.
Your mileage may vary...

 

[FireArm]

Didn't know Washington has a gun registry?

 

[Alexx1401]

So how do you guys reconcile the fact that the WA state constitution says that you can use "reasonable force" to protect your property or the property of others? What level of force would be considered "reasonable"? A punch, a bat, a taser? If nothing is go in to be considered reasonable, have the stones to just come out and say, "you don't have a right to protect your stuff…"

<Sigh>
As has been seen for decades what the law says on a piece of paper means NOTHING. If you end up in front of a black robe you can wave that paper in the air all you wish. What the black robe says is all that matters. Is this "right"? No. Is it the real world we all have to live in? Yes, sadly it is. There is the way I wish the world was and the way it really is. So bottom line? If someone shoots someone talk with a lawyer not the Police. What the law and your rights say means nothing then. If someone lets there mouth get them in a bind they may well still win years later. If they are sitting in jail for years not sure how great they will feel to win years later.

 

[Tony617]

Didn't know Washington has a gun registry?

If the shooter has a CPL then there is a record on it and will show up on your drivers license.

 

[Alexx1401]

Didn't know Washington has a gun registry?

They do not call it that but yes we do. If you ask about it the answer you will get will probably by a flat out lie. Because they do not call it by that name does not change the fact that we have a de facto registry . We do not YET have it where you can not legally own a gun that you did not "register". If you buy one in this state at an FFL the info is there and does not ever go away.