Luggage search (for guns) in Las Vegas

[RobMa]

This is not directed at any specific individual:

The hotel is private property, with very obvious rules for any guests.
What rules do you have regarding your private property ?

Again with the private property excuse.... every dem has beat this excuse into the ground...

 

[Alexx1401]

Again with the private property excuse.... every dem has beat this excuse into the ground...

I would have NO problem with them making up any damn rule they want. It was the way they handled this that just shocked me.

 

[RobMa]

I would have NO problem with them making up any damn rule they want. It was the way they handled this that just shocked me.

I would never bow down to that sh_it, I would have turned on a heel and skedaddled out of there with my middle finger trailing behind me...

 

[RobMa]

Fixed the title for you:

Gestapo search (for guns) in Las Vegas

 

[Alexx1401]

I would never bow down to that sh_it, I would have turned on a heel and skedaddled out of there with my middle finger trailing behind me...

You and me both. I am shocked he put up with that crap. No matter how much I liked the place I would have been checked out and looking for a new room elsewhere.

 

[nehalemguy]

What a bizarre way to do things.
That they went through his bags without telling him? Then the moronic way they dealt with it after? Sure looks like they are trying to make sure they never have to worry about being over booked.

After learning that they had gone through your bags, a quick-thinking fellow would have asked "Where is the $5k cash that was in the other box?" That would be a very awkward moment for a few seconds.

-E-

 

[nehalemguy]

You and me both. I am shocked he put up with that crap. No matter how much I liked the place I would have been checked out and looking for a new room elsewhere.

Try finding another open hotel room during Shot Show (or any large convention) that isn't 50 miles away or $600 a night.

-E-

 

[Unicykle]

And where is this clearly posted sign that says you have no rights here and we can go thru your stuff and take it?

 

[Stomper]

Yes, the Venetian's security officers certainly looked "highly trained."

Let's see if the hotel installs metal detectors at the doors now.

Another Vegas hotel to cross off my list.

Looks like most of them were kitting up with industrial strength blubber-armor…. front and back!

 

[Alexx1401]

Try finding another open hotel room during Shot Show (or any large convention) that isn't 50 miles away or $600 a night.

-E-

Before I put up with what he did I would have just left. Sounds like the way it ended up he wished he had just bagged it and left. Very damn strange way to run a business but, hey its their hotel and they can sure run it any way they wish

 

[drstrangelove]

Vegas only has another 48 days of potable water, so the end on an era is nigh. They reap as they sow. F em.

 

[Alexx1401]

Vegas only has another 48 days of potable water, so the end on an era is nigh. They reap as they sow. F em.

Well that should certainly slow things down a little

 

[RobMa]

Vegas only has another 48 days of potable water, so the end on an era is nigh. They reap as they sow. F em.

Hey, I have extended family there!

On second thought... I never liked them anyway....

 

[Stomper]

Vegas only has another 48 days of potable water, so the end on an era is nigh. They reap as they sow. F em.

They'll just have to turn their part-time fetish into regular practice and drink pee….


Oh, wait…. That's Las Vegas New Mexico, not Nevada



Oh well, New Mexicans can just drink pee, too!

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

The Las Vegas Resort Using Microwaves to Keep Guns Out of its Casino

The technology uses a discreet microwave radar system to scan people for guns, knives, and bombs—without forcing them to walk through metal detectors.

www.wired.com

 

[WillametteWill]

What I respect in the video is he clearly states, "Their house, their rules," and that he agrees with private property rights. The process may suck, but kudos for the legit perspective.

My takeaway is don't hand your bags with your gun to someone you don't know!
If you did not hand them off they would have no right to search them.
This is no different than handing your bags to a TSA agent.
The reason you could walk right by the desk with your gun is it is still under your control. The guy handed control to a bellhop. DR

Agree that I would NEVER hand off my bags like this to a non-governmental, private party like this, even locked inside. In some states this could be considered a transfer and require a BGC. However, to me this is extremely different compared with handing my guns over, properly, lawfully and per airline and TSA policies. Most laws I've reviewed have exceptions when firearms are being transported for "transfers" and this process is nearly always simple (not the hour-long ordeal he when through). I can say this after going doing it a dozens of airports well over 100 times.

Gestapo search (for guns) in Las Vegas

Gestapo = government. This is their house, their rules...vote with your dollars. Many Holiday Inns across the country now have no guns policies. I get how most ignore these signs and policies when there is no force of law, individual decision. My huge problem is with the luggage search. I did not see anything on their website indicating they can/will do this and if there is no sign this is a major issue. My property, my rules...you don't get to search them unless I'm using your property and agree to your rules (i.e., I leave if I don't like them).

Here are a few of their other policies that I'm betting nearly all LV hotels now have:

What is the Do Not Disturb (DND) policy at the resort?
A Do Not Disturb request will be honored for up to 48 hours; after that an internal observation of the entire suite is required. A uniformed Security Officer, along with a second team member, will knock and await a response, if there is no response they will enter and conduct the observation.

What is the vehicle inspection policy?
All vehicles entering or parking in Venetian|Palazzo garages are subject to random visual inspections of the interior and trunk space. Guests may decline this inspection and park off property.

 

[Certaindeaf]

This is why my gambling is limited to eating at the country buffet on 82nd once a week.







Lulz

 

[gryghin]

Why is he using a case that is easy to get into? Flying in, requires a locked hard case.

A Lifepod world have solved this as they are not as easy to get into and they can be used for anything valuable... they don't scream "He's Got A Pistol"

I've found that it's well worth the money.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

I think it was a locking TSA case that states Firearm on it.

I have a laptop case that my pistol safe fits in that I carry with me into hotels. If I am asked by a bellhop "Take your bag to your room Sir?", I just say "My laptop stays with me."

 

[RobMa]

What I respect in the video is he clearly states, "Their house, their rules," and that he agrees with private property rights. The process may suck, but kudos for the legit perspective.

Agree that I would NEVER hand off my bags like this to a non-governmental, private party like this, even locked inside. In some states this could be considered a transfer and require a BGC. However, to me this is extremely different compared with handing my guns over, properly, lawfully and per airline and TSA policies. Most laws I've reviewed have exceptions when firearms are being transported for "transfers" and this process is nearly always simple (not the hour-long ordeal he when through). I can say this after going doing it a dozens of airports well over 100 times.

Gestapo = government. This is their house, their rules...vote with your dollars. Many Holiday Inns across the country now have no guns policies. I get how most ignore these signs and policies when there is no force of law, individual decision. My huge problem is with the luggage search. I did not see anything on their website indicating they can/will do this and if there is no sign this is a major issue. My property, my rules...you don't get to search them unless I'm using your property and agree to your rules (i.e., I leave if I don't like them).

Here are a few of their other policies that I'm betting nearly all LV hotels now have:

What is the Do Not Disturb (DND) policy at the resort?
A Do Not Disturb request will be honored for up to 48 hours; after that an internal observation of the entire suite is required. A uniformed Security Officer, along with a second team member, will knock and await a response, if there is no response they will enter and conduct the observation.

What is the vehicle inspection policy?
All vehicles entering or parking in Venetian|Palazzo garages are subject to random visual inspections of the interior and trunk space. Guests may decline this inspection and park off property.

Exactly all the reasons why I don't go to places that subject their patrons to this type of totalitarian bs.