Sick and Tired of the 6.5 Creedmoor…

[belshawelk]

So you only hunt elk, then? And therefore only magnums or some such are worthy and you make a box of ammo last 20 years, right? Let people enjoy what they enjoy

I could care less of people have 6.5 I have 2 of them. Fine to shoot just people become instant long range hunting snipers with them. Its fine for hunting, even though it was never designed for it. Just because you can hit a steel target at 500 plus yards doesnt mean you can hunt at that range.

And no I hunt damn near everything. But everything has its purpose and if your gonna shot a 6.5 Creedmoor on elk, be smart. its not a long range caliber for elk.

 

[titsonritz]

Just meant that the 7mm-08 is a pretty great,all around cartridge. If someone wants a laser or a hypersonic varmint shredder, then they should just get one.

I never said it wasn't.

 

[titsonritz]

I could care less of people have 6.5 I have 2 of them. Fine to shoot just people become instant long range hunting snipers with them. Its fine for hunting, even though it was never designed for it. Just because you can hit a steel target at 500 plus yards doesnt mean you can hunt at that range.

And no I hunt damn near everything. But everything has its purpose and if your gonna shot a 6.5 Creedmoor on elk, be smart. its not a long range caliber for elk.

And yet 603 yards with an exit wound on the opposite side...

 

[titsonritz]

I read about one pro shooter, former mil sniper planting an elk at some insane distance like between 1300-1400 yards IIRC. This is obviously a case of the Indian, not the arrow but the round is very capable. Myself, I'm not sure I'd even go for the 600 yard shot with a 6.5CM.

 

[TTSX]

I read about one pro shooter, former mil sniper planting an elk at some insane distance like between 1300-1400 yards IIRC. This is obviously a case of the Indian, not the arrow but the round is very capable. Myself, I'm not sure I'd even go for the 600 yard shot with a 6.5CM.

There was also that video, I think you posted it, of a guy shooting a doe in the melon with a .50 at 100ish? Not related to anything in particular, just remembering the extreme opposite

 

[Koda]

I read about one pro shooter, former mil sniper planting an elk at some insane distance like between 1300-1400 yards IIRC. This is obviously a case of the Indian, not the arrow but the round is very capable. Myself, I'm not sure I'd even go for the 600 yard shot with a 6.5CM.

The round is more than capable but this is the concern with it I hear a lot of hunters are buying the 6.5CM because of these stories and its fame as a target rifle. My concern with the CM on a large game like an elk at long distance is the lighter bullet hitting the heavy shoulder bone and fragmenting or deflecting rather than penetrating. Otherwise tucked right behind the shoulder the bullet would do just fine with a double lung shot. Larger elk calibers still reatain a lot of penetration in case a heavy bone is hit like that... thats my observation on the 6.5CM/elk subject anyways, would love to hears opinions.

 

[Certaindeaf]

I don't always want magnum performance, but when I do, I prefer non-belted cases with 40º shoulders.

This is why Curly never wore a belt.

 

[P7M13]

Wonder how many calibers the phasers will be in when we finally get them!?!

Three calibers:

1. Impress (chicks)
2. Stun
3. Kill

This is why Curly never wore a belt.

And Shemp wore knee pads?

 

[No_Regerts]

And yet 603 yards with an exit wound on the opposite side...

That's not the average shooter. That's Wayne Van Zwoll.

 

[Koda]

That's not the average shooter. That's Wayne Van Zwoll.

but I can be like Wayne Van Zwoll if I just buy a 6.5CM right?

 

[titsonritz]

That's not the average shooter. That's Wayne Van Zwoll.

100% understood, it is nonetheless a testament to the capability of the cartridge that so many seem to want to bag on.

 

[titsonritz]

but I can be like Wayne Van Zwoll if I just buy a 6.5CM right?

Sure, put the time in. Plenty do and are.

 

[Superxjeff]

6.5 Swedish. Doing everything the Creedmoor will do and doing it for 130 years.

I had a .260 Remington before it was cool to have a 6.5 Creedmore.. Oh and a 6.5/06

 

[Koda]

Sure, put the time in. Plenty do and are.

What do you mean put the time in? I thought accuracy was all on finding the better caliber?
-sarcasm-

 

[titsonritz]

Wonder how many calibers the phasers will be in when we finally get them!?!

Calibers become "obsolete" with phasers.

Settings are:
Stun: make a living thing dazed.
Heavy stun: make a living thing unconscious.
Kill: make a living thing die.
Heat: speeds up molecules, things get hot.
Disrupt: separates molecules, blows things up.
Dematerialize: energizes molecules, make things vaporize.

 

[Koda]

when the time comes to lasers clearly the tried and true 30watt-06 laser guns will have the stopping power to take an elk at 1000yds where the new fangled 6.5watt Creedmore doesn't overheat as much for those sensitive to that kinda thing....

 

[titsonritz]

I had a .260 Remington before it was cool to have a 6.5 Creedmore.. Oh and a 6.5/06

There is also the 6.5x47 Lapua, but from where I'm looking the 6.5CM has taken the field, even from the venerable 6.5x55.

 

[No_Regerts]

100% understood, it is nonetheless a testament to the capability of the cartridge that so many seem to want to bag on.

That's the core of why I find the talk about the cartridge is nonsense. The bullet and the placement of it is what dropped that elk. Not the brass it came out of. The case isn't magic.

 

[titsonritz]

That's the core of why I find the talk about the cartridge is nonsense. The bullet and the placement of it is what dropped that elk. Not the brass it came out of. The case isn't magic.

Sad to say that doesn't go without saying.

 

[belshawelk]

100% understood, it is nonetheless a testament to the capability of the cartridge that so many seem to want to bag on.

heck growing up my dad shot every single deer, every year with .22LR in the head. Some out to 50 yards. but then he could hit a dime 3 times with it at 25 yards. Just because he did it doesn't mean it should be done. He never owned a scope in his life.

Could I put a shot with a 6.5 at 603 yards in a elk and hit the vitals and kill him? Sure, if there is no major wind, no major elevation changes, no movement of elk. Then lets talk temp, elevation all kinds of things. That's my point. Yes it works but it doesn't not carry much energy out past 500yards, when its off just a bit and hits a shoulder.

No worries, I wont keep going, that whats make all cartridges a fun talking point. I shoot with a bigger caliber. After seeing many things go wrong and helping many many people look for elk, I decided in my old age to make a change to even bigger. I have never had to look for one since. But then everyone can argue with my point because they don't like big cartridges, heck some people even drive a Chevy.