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The amount of gun owners that dont vote or vote against their self is unbelievable .
Im even related to some of them. .
indeed, there are many members here that vote for gun control.
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The amount of gun owners that dont vote or vote against their self is unbelievable .
Im even related to some of them. .
I've actually used that line, followed by "Wanna see it?"
Do everything possible to remove your revenue stream from the tax base that supports the population centers that promote this sort of garbage, and then watch them burn. I recommend a nice Scotch and a comfy front porch swing as a vantage point.So, what do YOU recommend we do?
Single malt, yes?I recommend a nice Scotch and a comfy front porch swing as a vantage point.
That's generally my preference but I admit the Johnny Blue was pretty damn OKish too.Single malt, yes?
The "way" is to fight them politically, here and now. Don't fall back on devising scenarios of "What will I do to squirm around the next infringement?". Instead put all your energy into getting everyone you know to contact every State Rep and Senator--every day--until these bills are shelved.
This doesn't work, never has, never will!
So, what do YOU recommend we do? Remember, they have done everything they can to block us from action, and they are well known for sneaking things in in the middle of the night, or simply removing the public voice from the whole situation and doing what they damn well please with out We the People!
Your call to fight is nothing but hollow, there IS NO FIGHT unless we take it to them with bullets and body bags, they have made it so we cannot!
Yes, it has worked. Many times. It even worked here in Oregon the last time the Republicans walked out and thereby prevented anti-2A legislation from passing.This doesn't work, never has, never will!
That may be a good long-term solution, but doesn't really help with SB-554, does it? I fully support the Scotch idea though. Single Malt.Do everything possible to remove your revenue stream from the tax base that supports the population centers that promote this sort of garbage, and then watch them burn. I recommend a nice Scotch and a comfy front porch swing as a vantage point.
Probably not unless people have done it already, like I have to some extent. The rioting and looting and other "unrest" seems to have generated millions of new gun owners and that overall is a mostly good thing I believe.That may be a good long-term solution, but doesn't really help with SB-554, does it?
I already said what we should do several times on this thread. You're not getting the answer you want---because you're not asking the right question. We are not trying to boil the ocean here, or achieve world peace, or get these anti-2A people to stop attacking us...if that's your only measure of success, then go ahead and give up, because you ain't gettin' that stuff. We are trying to defeat the CURRENT anti-gun bills in the legislature. This we can achieve. They will never stop attacking, so we need to keep defeating them. As already mentioned, this has worked before. Not every time, but many times. It worked here in Oregon the last time the Republicans walked out and thereby prevented anti-2A legislation from passing....SO, you say write them, call them, e-mail them, show up to public comment sessions, protest, rally, and What do we get, Screwed!
What I am pointing out is this; We HAVE done all the above actions, for YEARS and YEARS now with all these same politicians, and yet here we are yet again.....So Again, I ask YOU, What can WE the PEOPLE do?
It often seems that the gun community would rather eat its own than organize cohesive action.No, that is not the way. Non-compliance might be your coping strategy (or mine, or anyone's) to react to tyranny, but that is not a solution. What happens if you actually have to use your firearm in self-defense? Do you trust a Democrat district attorney not to charge you with a felony for illegal carry even if it was a "good shoot"? Do you trust a Democrat jury, Democrat prosecutor, and Democrat judge to support you when you use your illegally carried pistol in self-defense? I don't trust them for one second. These people hate us. They hate us not because we own guns, but because we dare to resist their tyranny, and because they loathe any whiff of self-reliance and independent thought. So good luck with your "non-compliance," it will not help you.
The "way" is to fight them politically, here and now. Don't fall back on devising scenarios of "What will I do to squirm around the next infringement?". Instead put all your energy into getting everyone you know to contact every State Rep and Senator--every day--until these bills are shelved.
For sure. Maybe something that OFF could initiate and maintain with the latest updates and tips for what action is most useful on a given day (e.g., contact this committee member, etc.)?It would be really nice if we had just a thread dedicated to a friendly users guide on how to for SB554 with resources listed and contacts with no posts allowed beyond the OP's resources so EVERYONE is aware and how to challenge it.
Perhaps with one of those evil black rifles or pistols, resting in yer lap.Do everything possible to remove your revenue stream from the tax base that supports the population centers that promote this sort of garbage, and then watch them burn. I recommend a nice Scotch and a comfy front porch swing as a vantage point.
My MCX pistol complete with brace and silencer would enhance the experience .....Perhaps with one of those evil black rifles or pistols, resting in yer lap.
But those new gun owners need to get involved because Second Amendment rights see to be the ones that are attacked year in and year out. The SCOTUS needs to take a stance in protecting our rights, making the Second Amendment off limits, period...Probably not unless people have done it already, like I have to some extent. The rioting and looting and other "unrest" seems to have generated millions of new gun owners and that overall is a mostly good thing I believe.
I agree that their silence is frustrating, but we are dealing with craven people who know that every word from their office will be shared across social media. We cannot know what their silence is telling us. They might agree, but are afraid to speak, or they are keeping their options open. But you can be sure their advisors are telling them, "Hey, we got 100 calls opposing SB-554 today, and 30% of them were from women." It does not matter what a politician says or doesn't say. It only matters what they DO.The silence is deafening, yet still speaks volumes.