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I take you are talking about the glock clones? I never bothered to try them and glad I did not now that I hear the Poly lowers suck. The AR80%? That literally anyone who can read can or at least could, crank out and they worked fantastic with no tweaking. The AR was long known as the "erector set" gun for a good reason. Turning and 80% lower into a stripped lowers was so damn easy and they just work. When I first bought one to play with it was so easy my Wife who had NO machine shop experience wanted to try. So I let her crank one out and it too just worked. Of course we were playing with complete uppers that were well made. Bolt one on and they just ran.The whole 'ghost gun' debate is a pathetic joke perpetrated on both sides. It takes a bit of skill, dexterity and patience to create one. There are more than a few finate tasks to complete a fully functional and issue free one. It's a 'warm fuzzy' thrown out to chum the waters!