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The scumbag mayor and governor are both responsible for these deaths and all the destruction based on their inactions. They are both cowards and if the people of Portland and Oregon vote for them again everyone who voted for them is an imbecile and deserves what they get. Portland Oregon is an experiment gone really really bad.
 
No way in hell should President Trump send in Feds. The governors and mayors own this mess. And while I'm glad to see the support for President Trump through rallies, I also think those people going into Portland is a mistake. A wise man once said, "Never distract your enemy when they are busy defeating themself."

IMO, joining them in the chaos hurts more than it helps right now. After November, all bets are off.
 
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I'm going to take a wild guess here that the gun was a black powder revolver. The amount of smoke in the video is immense and it lingers. I've stepped backward and forward a lot -- it's hard to tell which one is the shooter but I think it was the guy with the big emblem on his coat. There's another guy in dark clothes but he appears to have substantial camera equipment. He may have filmed shell casings which would cut against the black powder theory -- weird behavior. The guy in the jacket with the emblem backs away and runs off which would be more consistent with having just done a murder.
There was also a report of mace/spray being used. Not saying your theory doesn't make sense. I didn't look it up but do black powder firearms require background checks? I don't track those but seem to recall something about it.
 
No way in hell should President Trump send in Feds. The governors and mayors own this mess. And while I'm glad to see the support for President Trump through rallies, I also think those people going into Portland is a mistake. A wise man once said, "Never distract your enemy when they are busy defeating themself."

IMO, joining them in the chaos hurts more than it helps right now. After November, all bets are off.

I can't disagree with you completely, but it's not quite so cut and dried when YOU LIVE 3 miles from the dumpster fire that's been burning for three months. That's been ALLOWED TO BURN by people that live way above the fray, behind gates and security doors. Those people don't actually line IN the city. They live above it.
 
It appears there are two clouds of smoke/spray. A smaller cloud which could be pepper spray answered by a larger cloud which I presume to be the gunshot fired by the suspect.
 
I can't disagree with you completely, but it's not quite so cut and dried when YOU LIVE 3 miles from the dumpster fire that's been burning for three months. That's been ALLOWED TO BURN by people that live way above the fray, behind gates and security doors. Those people don't actually line IN the city. They live above it.

Read the last six words I posted.
 
Yeah "reports of shots fired". Then in The article they say it was Trump supporters shooting! Ha. Lying scum dirt bags. Who's been destroying our once beautiful city for over three months? The far left criminals.
You are absolutely right, and we all know who that scum Wheeler supports. All this blood is on his hands. His inaction as well as the governors caused this and made it much worse.
 
From another forum:

"Shooter's been recognized from a protest in Camas Washington a day earlier. Identified by a black power fist tattoo and wearing the same clothing and soft armor vest. Still trying to figure out a name. From what we've gathered at this time and with a good bit of speculation: It appears he was with a group that was looking for a hit on a patriot all day/night. In fact he was caught on film pulling his gun one other time but hiding it again after deciding it wasn't a good opportunity. A scout spotted an isolated patriot walking down the sidewalk and called it in. Suspect jumps in a car, goes up a block or two, gets out, the scout points the guy out and says he's a Trumper, shooter asks "right here?" and then fires 2 shots and runs. Patriot lifts a can of OC spray and either manages to spray right as he was being shot or there are reports that the can was struck by one of the two bullets. The bullet struck him in the upper chest. He turned, ran a few steps, and then collapsed.

Antifa gathered in the park and I'd say 2/3 of them threw a huge celebration congratulating themselves, encouraging more of it, singing, dancing, etc. About 1/3 were scared ****less of retaliation and were running around discussing their escape plans and going into hiding."
 
And heres our mayor letter to trump.
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I was at the Johnson Creek Fred Meyers at 6pm on Saturday. There was a lady with bright red hair at the south entrance pouring milk on herself saying she was bear sprayed. The gentleman with her had a pretty nice video camera with a boom mic. Seemed really odd, like a set up.
 

As of the time of posting the video appears to show shots fired and a casualty on the ground. No leading information on situation.
It's funny the article had a pic. If someone pulling what looked like a cell phone from there pocket and saying it was pepper spray of some sort! I went to show my wife and the pic. Has since been removed I wish I would have screenshot it!
Stacy
 
Hello,

I agree with you.

I want the President to take action in ALL states, counties, cities, and rural areas that REFUSE to do jack squat when it comes to the violence, wounding, murders, arson, looting, rioting, destruction, etc. when it comes to the NON peaceful protestors.

I do not give a rat's @@@ if some communist or socialist or D or R or 'whatever' governor, mayor, etc. does not LIKE IT.

The President needs to do this asap and IT should have been done from the gitgo in so many places across this nation!

IKE did this. May he rest in peace. I LIKED him as a President VERY much!

In other states, counties, cities, and rural areas... other R and D leaders took action and they did not let this dung continue. BOTH parties did this in the past.

Back to the criminal crazies...

They need to bring in and USE those big fire hoses - water cannons, use tasers, billy clubs aka batons, rubber bullets, etc.

They NEED TO DO SOMETHING about the curfews. They need to tell the peaceful protestors that they have a time limit aka a CURFEW that will be ENFORCED and WHERE they can march AND if any person JOINS IN with the rioting criminals - they will be ARRESTED or HURT if they do NOT move out - clear out in a PEACEFUL MANNER.

The so called peaceful people (IF there are any of them OUT there!) have a choice to make.

If they are too stupid or too stubborn to move as a PEACEFUL person and stay in the group of the criminal, crazy, violent, etc. NASTY people... they WILL GET TREATED just like the criminals! God gave them free will! Use it or lose it. Use some common sense, use the brain that the good Lord gave you, and apply the Golden Rule as you LEAVE the rioting criminals.

GO home!

The LOCAL peace officers, the NG, troopers, etc. should NOT be told to stand down, leave, ignore it all and so forth. The PRESIDENT needs to make this clear to all states that they will be ALLOWED to do their job in an orderly manner.

If a criminal tries to murder or burn up a home or business or a PERSON and nothing else works to STOP him from these crimes (SEE above stopping suggestions.) - the NG, the troopers, the peace officers, etc. should SHOOT TO STOP the perps before they wound, murder, burn up any other person or a home or building on PUBLIC and PRIVATE PROPERTY.

By the way...

The state of MA has called up the NG.

The MASS R governor did give some reasons but NOT all news sources told more of the story as it unfolded. Go figure on the news! Ugh.



Massachusetts governor activates up to 1,000 National Guard members


Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker signed an order on Friday obtained by ABC News, activating up to 1,000 National Guard members in the state.

The Republican governor did not cite a specific reason for signing the order. (Wrong... it was told later on.)

Gov. Baker activates National Guard, doesn't give a reason (Wrong... it was told later on and not updated.)

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THIS LINK below has more details!


Gov. Charlie Baker has activated up to 1,000 members of the Massachusetts National Guard, "in the event that municipal leaders" need the backup, public safety officials said as protests rage elsewhere in the nation.

Baker signed the order activating members of the Guard Friday evening as reaction to the latest police shooting — this time in Kenosha, Wis. — spread from the heartland to professional sports.

MORE ON THE LINK ABOVE.

I do NOT think that some of the other groups should be in some of those places with the rioters because all it does is ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE.

THERE HAS TO BE ANOTHER WAY and it is the JOB of the peace officers, the NG, etc.

Now... IF the POLITICAL donkeys do not let them do their job and IF the PRESIDENT refuses to issue immediate orders and tell the crazy criminal states to GO F themselves (NO offense!) - IT WILL COME DOWN to the real meaning of the SECOND since the tyrants in power are NOT only in dereliction of duty but they are CRIMINALS themselves.

PEACEFUL and HONEST TAXPAYING CITIZENS are NOT going to let this slide and every single donkey in PUBLIC OFFICE who REFUSES TO DO HIS DUTY TO PROTECT ALL PEOPLE and not only the CRAZY criminal rioters so called protestors or criminal transients aka as SOME criminal 'homeless' who seem to have more RIGHTS than MOST OF US DO... well... they should be THROWN OUT OF OFFICE.

Hold another vote quickly or throw their @@@es in jail or in an insane asylum since MOST OF THEM HAVE LOST THEIR FREAKING MINDS when it comes to being a LEADER for ALL CITIZENS. They have VIOLATED their OATH OF OFFICE!

I do not KNOW about some of those 'groups' that went to Portland. I have seen a bit here and there and I do NOT know the truth about the PP men or others. I think that it was NOT a wise decision to GO THERE FOR A FIGHT (?) or for a PROTEST to show THEIR SIDE even if they had/have good intentions.

Some man died for this so called protest against the crazy criminals and he was supposed to be a good guy but I really have NO clue about HIM and some of the other people there.

They need the professionals to DO their jobs and come down HARD on the criminals. Period!

They should have stayed home in MY opinion and not gone looking for a protest or fight even if they had good intentions. THAT is not going to solve this dung.

IT is FUBAR! Snafu!

The President needs to turn off his twitter, THINK, listen to good and sane advisors and NOT the Princess or Jared, shut up his constant pissing, moaning and whining about dumb @@@ S!!! and TAKE ACTION NOW - not mess around with it.

I would use POLICE DOGS and MILITARY DOGS too.

Take care.

Old Lady Cate
When that happens it's over. All of it. They'll come for you too.
 
IMO, joining them in the chaos hurts more than it helps right now. After November, all bets are off.

And I'm telling you, if you had to live in the middle of it? Do you have riots and fires, and destruction nightly in your little town of Roseburg? You opinion doesn't mean a whole lot considering your local.. Me? I can't say for sure. But I can damn well understand people, that have finally had enough, going to town to do what they can to show support for the GOOD people of Portland, and Oregon.

I would wager that if real forces came in to clean up the mess tear-Gas ted, k8brown and minions have allowed to fester that the supporters of law and order would stand down immediately. Just like, so-called, "Peaceful" protesters SHOULD have done months ago. Instead of being shields for rioters.
 
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