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Bless her heart.
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Censorship, there goes the First Amendment....The victims families need to sue the venue for failing to protect them - if you deny the right to self defense, then you must provide it.
The other concern I see is how many venues shut down the discussion on this issue - most publicly Reddit. Sure, there was hate language and wrong information. But what constitutes the public square in electronic media ?
Reddit /r/guns put a 24 hour cooling off period in place. Reddit's /r/news was banning commentators and deleting posts.
My concern is that politicians need to do something. Much like those standing in line to donate blood. They don't really - may be a cooling off period before looking at the failures in security - I'm looking at you FBI.
If true, how does a guy on the no-fly list work for the DHS (for a contractor to DHS) handling illegal aliens?
And remember, this was ended by a good guy with a gun.
Today, in a speech that got her a standing ovation, Hillary Clinton singled out and condemned the AR-15 rifle.
She labeled the rifle "a weapon of war", and also "a terrorist weapon". She cited 3 infamous mass shootings that involved an AR-15 rifle.
Totally agree, too many holes in the sequence of events and no mention of the three police officers who were involved with the initial engagement...The descriptions that I am reading about what happened just don't seem to add up in my opinion.
There are accounts that there was a police officer at the entrance, who immediately engaged the gunman in a gunfight. Supposedly, two nearby police officers soon joined in. Reports state that the gunman then retreated to a restroom with 5 hostages.
But if all of that is true, then how did they end up with 100 people shot? This just does not seem to make any sense to me.
Here is a timeline published by the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...d-at-the-orlando-nightclub-shooting.html?_r=0
I have a one word response to the LA Times - Chicago!Los Angeles Times:
"The blood of the Orlando dead is on the hands of the National Rifle Association."
See:
Mass murder in Orlando is the most recent in a horrific parade of violence (http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-orlando-mass-shooting-terrorism-20160612-snap-story.html)
NUTS!!!I have a one word response to the LA Times - Chicago!
I agree 100%.
Some very bad people have declared war on us. This is not the time to disarm.
Further, even with a CWFL these weapons may not be carried concealed in the following places, pursuant to Section 790.06(12)(a), Florida Statutes:
- Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose. (Unfortunately, this law is ambiguous and appears to be subject to interpretation with regard to restaurants with bars or other places licensed to serve alcohol which serve other purposes such as casinos and other places of entertainment. We have researched this issue including contacting the concealed weapons division of the Florida Department of Agriculture and have received this <broken link removed> . While this letter and its opinion are not authoritative, the general sense is that concealed weapons may be legally carried by a CWFL holder into a business that serves alcohol but not as a primary business, however a concealed weapons carrier should stay out of portions of that business where the service of alcohol is the primary function, i.e., the bar area of a restaurant.)