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If you have some buried, say you get met at work because you have a cpl, they take your sidearm. Escort you home clear out your safe. But the FEMA camp isn't quite ready for rollout. NOT wanting to alarm your neighbors... they let you off with a warning. Now, I'd say at that point you bug out, and go grab your cache and join the politically disenchanted freedom lovers of like minds. Personally I think they'd try the death of a 1,000 cuts approach to reducing the number of gun owners, hmmmmmm, lets go after a few vets, let's grab those who were ever audited by the IRS or paid late, awwwwwww lessee anyone who ever bought more than one box of rifle or pistol ammo, especially those with the dangerous, murderous calibers like .223, 9, 45, 06. close the internet down for maintenance because of Chinese cyber attacks.... there are many ways they could start slow. Even individual units of the alphabet may not know the bigger picture. They just get an APB on Joe Citizen and go yank him in. Easy peasy.....and its not like the average Joe once arrested can get on NWFA and say, "It's STARTED."So, Yeah, I know people who have contingency plans buried and have been doing so for decades. And one passed away, but his sons know where the plans are.

Brutus Out
 
I sure hope so! I don't have a lot of faith in them though. I think we'll see it coming. Going to be a lot of political genital measuring and people in uproar before they start going door to door for our guns.

I don't think that local LEO, at least in my area, would enforce blatantly illegal laws which clearly infringe upon basic human rights. The last go around with the anti's had numerous LEO signing letters and sending them to the DOJ or POTUS or whomever saying as much.
 
Certain LEO's won't go along and they'll lead the way BEFORE we need to bury them.

While there are a tiny few most on the goberment payroll won't take the chance of loosing their retirement package. Most in the military don't even know what the constitution is other than words they said something about as a group.Sorry to sound mean but the truth is the truth..
 
There's going to be an interim period between when it begins to get tyrannical and the time to dig them up. This period of time will be one of great tension between the citizens and the forces of evil whoever they are. We don't know who will be running things at the time and what sort of government they will be running. No one saw the forces of evil that Adolph Hitler created before it was created either. It's comes like a lamb and becomes the wolf before you know it. I see the Democrats being used as an extension of the forces of evil because of they're ignorance in the gun control issues. Democrats in general are an ignorant lot that think "change" is good and we need to improve everything because it's so imperfect. They think we made many mistakes in our Bill of Rights and that the people don't deserve these rights. Democrats are so willing to hand over their rights to the government for the feeling of safety. If any group of people are responsible for the downfall of the freedom we enjoy today it will be the Democrats, because of they're ignorance and stupidity.
 
There's going to be an interim period between when it begins to get tyrannical and the time to dig them up. This period of time will be one of great tension between the citizens and the forces of evil whoever they are. We don't know who will be running things at the time and what sort of government they will be running. No one saw the forces of evil that Adolph Hitler created before it was created either. It's comes like a lamb and becomes the wolf before you know it. I see the Democrats being used as an extension of the forces of evil because of they're ignorance in the gun control issues. Democrats in general are an ignorant lot that think "change" is good and we need to improve everything because it's so imperfect. They think we made many mistakes in our Bill of Rights and that the people don't deserve these rights. Democrats are so willing to hand over their rights to the government for the feeling of safety. If any group of people are responsible for the downfall of the freedom we enjoy today it will be the Democrats, because of they're ignorance and stupidity.

To an extent, I think you are right. The Democrats do tend to serve as the enablers in our system. They expand a lot of things that will compromise defense or integrity, and they are afraid to crack down on real dangers in the US. Individually, many prove these ideals are flexible. Case in point, Obama kept Gitmo open and blew up a ton of people in other countries while spying on all of us. But the party itself tends to be far too idealistic, without guard against danger.

The GOP has its own set of problems. Most I won't bother with, but I will point out it's actually eroding its own base to a dangerous extent. Latinos and Arabs are eerily similar in many ways, and both would culturally gravitate towards conservative values if all things were equal. Asians would probably split evenly. But, because of many of the social platforms and policy points, the like-minded voters were driven away. I will always recall in a GOP primary, seeing a Palestinian Republican asking about his one contradictory interest, and getting ripped to shreds by the policy. You can bet he didn't stick around after that.

I think the GOP will either have to change its approach and pitch a bigger tent, or it will lose relevance and power to the democrats, which in turn would make the country ripe for some kind of reactionary takeover.
 
I don't think that local LEO, at least in my area, would enforce blatantly illegal laws which clearly infringe upon basic human rights. The last go around with the anti's had numerous LEO signing letters and sending them to the DOJ or POTUS or whomever saying as much.

I live in Western Washington. I have zero faith in any local law enforcement on this side of the state.
 
Why would anyone want to bury them? So a tyrannical government doesn't take them away?? Doesn't the 2nd Amendment itself beg the question, 'if you think it's time to bury your weapons, it is in fact time to dig them up'?

And if you were one to think burying them is a good idea, what would it take to dig them up?

I don't understand the questions (s)
 
Why would anyone want to bury them? So a tyrannical government doesn't take them away?? Doesn't the 2nd Amendment itself beg the question, 'if you think it's time to bury your weapons, it is in fact time to dig them up'?

And if you were one to think burying them is a good idea, what would it take to dig them up?

Lotsa reasons;
Got some weapons and ammo for example (scoped rifle, food, supplies) in a spiderhole about a half mile outside my bugout location. If I get overrun there and have to skitter out the back quick, I can come back in the dark and eventually snipe my location back one goon at a time... I know my place and terrain in the dark, they don't.
Got one stash buried halfway to my location, just in case I get stripped of my stuff or have to ditch it (either by "authorities" or bandits) on the way there. Easy to pick up as I go by either way, but it's there.
 
I don't understand the questions (s)

Why would you bury weapons. So far the only reason I can understand is a cache should you have to leave your home in an emergency and can't / didn't take some with you.

If you did bury your weapons and it wasn't in a cache but rather due to the fear that government would take them, what would it take to dig them up?
 
I don't think that local LEO, at least in my area, would enforce blatantly illegal laws which clearly infringe upon basic human rights. The last go around with the anti's had numerous LEO signing letters and sending them to the DOJ or POTUS or whomever saying as much.

Some LEOs blaltantly disregard laws already. Look at all the civil rights violations on you tube.
All someone in the gub'mnt has to do is say: "We believe joe blow is a delta tango. Go pick him up for questioning. Do you really trust them enough to not confiscate any "contraband'? Of course even if Mr. Blow gets off with a warning or is found not guilty....how long and how much money will it take for him to get his "contraband" back. unfortunately the current folks in charge have a passion for ruining people's lives. Particularly if it advances their agenda. I mean every "gunman" uses an "assault rifle" with a large magazine", until video shows it was a shot gun or a blunderbuss or a potato gun. This is how these tools got elected. Many people these days have an attention span of about 15 seconds...so all they hear is "Navy Yard, assault rifle.....x times deaD. OHHHHHHHHH guns are SO Badddddddd. Oh the BHO guy wants to give us free HC? Cool. I am down with that." Take our resident Marxist...going to school, going to be a Ph.D and teach other folks how good Marxism is. He wants to be one of the elite that benefit from Marxism. Never mind there's probably not one professor in the former Soviet Union making a living teaching Marxism.... Good on him for having a plan to get what he wants. Personally, I believe it is a bankrupt philosophy, so I'd be a double major with something more marketable but all he has to have is the support of his professors and he's set.
As for local LEOs....How do you think it will play out if the local police chief gets sideways of the Feds and loses a big free pile of government cash for saying, I am not going to do that for DHS! The mayor, city council and city manager will be saying, "Hand over your badge, time for you to go be successful somewhere else." Sheriffs at least are generally elected.

But at the end of the day, many people (LEOs) are just going to look out for themselves and think: "Well, there must be something to this warrant or DOJ wouldn't be down here in Midville."

Brutus Out
 
While there are a tiny few most on the goberment payroll won't take the chance of loosing their retirement package. Most in the military don't even know what the constitution is other than words they said something about as a group.Sorry to sound mean but the truth is the truth..

Did you or any of your family serve in the military ?

I did not, but 3 of my sons did. All did combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and all saw action multiple times. These boys are fierce Constitutionalists who dislike both political parties. I have met many of their brothers in arms, and they have stayed at my place and broke bread. All of them are jaded by a government who has failed in the prosecution of 2 wars and the loss of their brothers in arms in combat. All of them are very well versed in the US Constitution. Many have read it multiple times during the endless hours on planes and sitting in sh*tholes in country.

I will grant you that there are members of the military who may not be familiar with the Constitution. But that number is proportionally smaller than society as a whole. A lot of Americas are just fat dumb and happy that the cable comes on every night.

Give our military some credit. Your statement that most don't know what the Constitution is completely false. As is your assumption that the government is going to keep all the paychecks rolling and retirement checks rolling when SHTF. Their money stops just as fast as does everybody's, and their loyalty will flip over to themselves and family real fast.
 
I sure hope so! I don't have a lot of faith in them though. I think we'll see it coming. Going to be a lot of political genital measuring and people in uproar before they start going door to door for our guns.
You will be surprised what happens when the great pay and retirement package becomes an issue. They are all thugs.gangstas untill individually tested. I have met some righteous cops in my life.
 

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