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what's the best ammo to use in an HD 12 gauge?

Discussion in 'Education & Training' started by michaelwilson98, May 15, 2013.

  1. michaelwilson98

    michaelwilson98 Mt. Angel, Oregon Member

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    I have a Remington 870 express tactical with a 6 shell tube. I have 9 pellet 00 Buckshot and slugs with the buckshot going out first. It's my bedroom gun and was just wondering if there was something better out there or if there's a different load out I should use. Just wanting some opinions. Another thing to take into account is my bedroom is at the top of the stairs.
     
  2. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    That sounds pretty good to me.
     
  3. Kevinkris

    Kevinkris Aloha Well-Known Member

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    cant go wrong with buck shot but pretty much up to your preference. a shotgun will do damage with just about anything you put in it.
     
  4. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It depends.

    Where do you live? Apartment/Condo, suburban house, or out in the country?

    What type of interior and exterior walls do you have?

    Do you live alone? If not are there backstops or safe areas that your loved ones can shelter behind?

    How much concern/tolerance do you have for over penetration?
     
  5. EMNofSeattle

    EMNofSeattle Kitsap Active Member

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    Are the intruders shape shifting wolf people?
     
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  6. coop44

    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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    at point blank range, anything will work, I'm a fan of #4 shot. Basically turns meat into hamburger at close range, nothing to stitch together.
     
  7. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    #4 shot. Now that I live very rural, rather than NE Portland, I have what were advertised as "Rhodesian Jungle" rounds. They are loaded with 5 or 6 OO buck pellets on bottom, a cardboard wedge, then #4 shot(1/4oz.? 3/8oz.? I'm not sure.) on top.

    I also keep Winchester PDX1 rounds on hand with a slug topped with 3 OO buck pellets. I intend on using those on advancing hoardes, rather than individual home intrudes.

    On top of that, I keep plenty of slugs, OO buck, #4 shot, #6 shot and #7&1/2 shot on hand at all times. My "home defense" shotgun is a Remington 870 with 18" barrel and 2 round mag extension. I see no need for other doo-dads. To each their own.
     
  8. Kevinkris

    Kevinkris Aloha Well-Known Member

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    well as far as doo-dads, a tac light attached to your home defense weapon would be advisable. far too often someone gets scared of the figure in the dark and later finds out they have killed their spouse or teenager who is sneaking in after coming home too late.
     
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  9. coop44

    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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    IMHO "tactical" lights are a bad joke, and a good target
     
  10. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    I see the positives and negatives to a light. My house is lit enough to identify my family. Also, if you are considering waving a 12 gauge shotgun in your home in the dark, you may also consider getting the family on the same page. A teen that is aware of the shotgun being used to protect him is a lot less likely to be on the receiving end. I think this may be one of those YMMV situations.
     
  11. Kevinkris

    Kevinkris Aloha Well-Known Member

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    its not very common for a burglar to be a tactically trained individual. you make a fair point but writing it off solely because they can see you is a bit unfair when it also allows you to see them. if you dont want to have a light to see with you could at least get a NV device of some type. knowing what your target is happens to be one the fundamentals on handling a weapon.


    also true that if you make your family aware of it, they will likely avoid stirring your sleep at night in that way but it never hurts to play it safe.
     
  12. JGRuby

    JGRuby Portland Oregon New Member

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    My intent when I come home during the middle of the night is not to sneak in - I plainly annouce that it is me and turn on the lights when I come home late. Anyone sneaking around in the dark is creating a probelm in my eyes. The little sleep lost is a real bargain in comparison to the risk to a family member.
    I expect the same from anyone in my house. The dogs normally wake everyone up anyways.

    James Ruby
     
  13. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Hmmm - 5 posts - have you searched these forums? YouTube?

    12ga good choice
    Bird shot - like 7 1/2 for inside use
    Buck + Slug on weapon for if needed use (sling, cheek pad, etc)

    only 300 Million more opinions to wade thru.


    Search YouTube for Shotgun Home Defense Penetration tests to get an idea.
    I like the guy shooting a pork shoulder covered by rack of ribs to give an idea
    just how effective, even small pellet sized, bird shot is.
     
  14. mattdomes

    mattdomes Newberg Active Member

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    Bird Shot, works the same as buck at inside the house distances
     
  15. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    IMO worst advice ever. We really need to STOP propagating this myth. For a 12 gauge' buck shot or slugs. Better yet, Hornady's TAP line has 12 gauge specific defense ammo. Get it and your GTG. ( good to go).
     
  16. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Several sources indicate that #1 buck was superior to 00 due to the greater number of wound tracts combined with deep penetration. Home Defense Shotgun Ammo
     
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    RBid Wilsonville, OR Well-Known Member

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    What do you do when you're asleep, and somebody flips the light on? When your eyes are adjusted for dim light, you do not look at a bright light pointed at your eyes.
     
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    Tony617 Washington State Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I'm not able to find any #1 buckshot so I use Rio Royal 9 pellet 00 buckshot rounds at the range. I keep my shotgun loaded with Federal XM127 9 pellet 00 buckshot for HD.
     
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    sauerwilly Portland, OR New Member

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  20. Hamtaro1085

    Hamtaro1085 Seattle, WA New Member

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    bird shot! don't matter what people say, hit someone with that and im pretty sure they arent going to be coming back for more.