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I think it was Fajen, IDK where the g came fromInteresting. I did not know the name of the stock type. (I'm finding hits with "Fajen" rather than "Fagen". Will have do some reading. )
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I think it was Fajen, IDK where the g came fromInteresting. I did not know the name of the stock type. (I'm finding hits with "Fajen" rather than "Fagen". Will have do some reading. )
Some people pronounce the J as a G.. much like some people pronounces Y as a J.......I think it was Fajen, IDK where the g came from
some Level 3 armor, yes.Old school is really cool.... but along with the numerous reasons listed above the 5.56 can punch through level III armor. That alone gives it a solid edge.
Not back then...And easy to drop a red dot on it via ultimak
You saying M1913 rails haven't been around since guns existed. How you suppose to shoot without an opticEx
Not back then...
Too metro for me. The .30 Carbine is borderline. The .22 Spitfire (30 Carbine necked to 22) would have split the difference nicely. Ah, but the world is filled with great ideas.How 'bout 9×19 vs 30 carbine? There's pretty much zero 30 carbine ammo on the planet compared to 9mm.
5.56 because of the availability of the round. I like both guns equally but if the shtf you are going to need a round in great abundance. I have never seen the numbers of .30 caliber carbine in stores over 5.56. It's strictly a numbers game.So, a trip to the home range,* and seeing some footage from the Watts Riots got me to thinking about this:
What do you consider the better SHTF cartridge. The definition we'll use for said is: a self-loading carbine used by private citizens or local law enforcement in a disaster situation.
Option One: The venerable .30 Carbine. Developed around the time of the biggest conflict in human history. The most numerically produced rifle in American history, the M1 Carbine, has soldiered on in the hands of military personnel, law enforcement, and private citizens for decades. And has been used by both friend and foe on every continent. The little thirty-caliber is no longer the hip new thing, to put it mildly, but can still hold it's own.
Carbines in said are generally light, handy, and feature decent capacity (15 and 30 round magazines being standard.). Time was they were a dime a dozen, but they now go for premiums.
Option Two: Just as venerable, the Cold War classic made famous by the Armalite line. It has served as the primary American military rifle cartridge longer than any other. Used by the standing armies of the free world (and plenty others), countless law enforcement, and tens of millions of armed citizens, it would be impossible to argue with the popularity of the 5.56㎜ NATO.
As with the first, carbines are generally light, handy, and readily available to most. Ammo on tap is 20 or 30 rounds, but larger options do exist. ARs are, according to most reports, the most popular selling firearm in the US and can be had in a dizzying array of configurations and price points.
So, what say you, the .30 or the .223 for when things go bad in a hurry? Thanks for sharing!
* These lil' carbines tagged along.
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AhhhhhhGot plenty to make up .223. As to .30 Carbine, just found this in an old Castrol oil box that looked out of place. Some were $5, but had to pay $7 for most of them. So, whichever falls more readily to hand.
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