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THIS is true!Remember why the first gulf war started? The Iraqis claimed that the Kuwaitis were horizontal drilling into their territory. Years later it came out that they were.
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THIS is true!Remember why the first gulf war started? The Iraqis claimed that the Kuwaitis were horizontal drilling into their territory. Years later it came out that they were.
Like I said . For the most part Americans have no understanding of ethnicity. To us we equate it with race. Not the same. A battle lost or a massacre 500 years ago is as fresh as something that happened yesterday especially when you get into hotly contested areas like the Balkans .Whether Americans have a nuanced understanding of ethnicity or not, those Russian-speaking Russians not in Russia are squatters. I guess scumbags from New Jersey deserve Boca as much as Russia deserves wherever. Either way it is just trashy. You can take the girl out of Russia...
Yeah, and a ton of the Russians in Ukraine are relatively recent arrivals in specific, more prosperous areas, where they are essentially taking the place by adverse possession, with the backing of the Russian military and Vladdie. If that is not scummy behavior, what is? Russia has a long history of acting in not so nice ways to Ukraine. Holodomor, anyone? Pretty lousy if you ask me. If you have Ukrainian ancestry, you should be more upset with what Russia is doing than I am. Are there some Russians who have been there a while, such that it is their home? Sure. But that in no way justifies the broader Russian actions.That ain't cool dude!
Depending on the source, there are between 1/5 to 1/3 of the population of the Ukraine who are ethnic Russian, ain't no way around that, they were born there, and generally go back many generations, and they have just as much claim or right to live there as any, same as you have here, living where you live!
Calling them Scumbags is pretty asinine of you, just because they live in the Ukraine, not even by choice, simply because they don't live in predominantly Russian held areas makes them an enemy, WOW!
I don't think many understand the situation here. Many who live there WANT to re integrate with Russia, they got a taste of what life would be like with out Russia, under the crime bosses, and found it wanting, and they decided they needed Russia to help them find the path forward! Most others embraced a life with out Russia meddling in their business, (despite much/most of the corruption coming from Russia) And they saw a chance to become something greater then they ever dreamed possible under the thumb of Russia, but the crime lords from the Kremlin and Putin crushed that dream! Add to this, Europe and the U.S Seriously squandered their chance to help "The Paris of the East" evolve away from the old Soviet way, and here we are now!
For the Record, I , my wife, and most of my family are Slavic Ukrainian, we go back to the 1600's and before, we were among the first 300 families to settle Texas ahead of it's statehood, and thusly are known as Texians, and we are quite proud of that heritage!
From what I have heard, Ukrainians dont blame the holodomor on "Russia" at all. Most Ukrainians seem to blame it on soviet leaders at the time (in particular, they blame it on party members of a certain ethnicity... and this happens to be the reason why there are so many neo nazis in Ukraine today, the holodomor is basically their rallying cry).Yeah, and a ton of the Russians in Ukraine are relatively recent arrivals in specific, more prosperous areas, where they are essentially taking the place by adverse possession, with the backing of the Russian military and Vladdie. If that is not scummy behavior, what is? Russia has a long history of acting in not so nice ways to Ukraine. Holodomor, anyone? Pretty lousy if you ask me. If you have Ukrainian ancestry, you should be more upset with what Russia is doing than I am. Are there some Russians who have been there a while, such that it is their home? Sure. But that in no way justifies the broader Russian actions.
But at least they aren't from New Jersey LOL.
My understanding is that many interpret it as an intentional act against Ukraine/Ukrainians, directed by the central Soviet powers, who were.... Russian... I simply cannot imagine that detail being lost given the emphasis on ethnicity which runs through 20th century conflicts. Especially in Ukraine which had fallen under Russification policies.From what I have heard, Ukrainians dont blame the holodomor on "Russia" at all. Most Ukrainians seem to blame it on soviet leaders at the time (in particular, they blame it on party members of a certain ethnicity... and this happens to be the reason why there are so many neo nazis in Ukraine today, the holodomor is basically their rallying cry).
The ability of humans to use and be influenced by an irrelevant grudge that should have no meaning to those alive today (e.g. the entire middle east) is something that I have trouble understanding. Obviously there are some American examples, and I can acknowledge that the basis for some intergenerational grudges may have negative impacts on those holding the grudges today (e.g. if I was a Native American I think I might be justified being pissed off at us land grabbing colonizers). However, I think that because I was raised in nation of immigrants that were, over time, forced to abandon those grudges to assimilate to achieve success, I really have a hard time grasping the mindset of those who would be influenced by those sorts of grudges.Like I said . For the most part Americans have no understanding of ethnicity. To us we equate it with race. Not the same. A battle lost or a massacre 500 years ago is as fresh as something that happened yesterday especially when you get into hotly contested areas like the Balkans .
when I was a Kid in the 60's and 70's we were taught we were a melting pot!The ability of humans to use and be influenced by an irrelevant grudge that should have no meaning to those alive today (e.g. the entire middle east) is something that I have trouble understanding. Obviously there are some American examples, and I can acknowledge that the basis for some intergenerational grudges may have negative impacts on those holding the grudges today (e.g. if I was a Native American I think I might be justified being pissed off at us land grabbing colonizers). However, I think that because I was raised in nation of immigrants that were, over time, forced to abandon those grudges to assimilate to achieve success, I really have a hard time grasping the mindset of those who would be influenced by those sorts of grudges.
A lot of that comes from the English tradition. England was a melting pot long before American became one . Italians (Romans) , Germans, French , Norse and their slaves ( Slavs from what is now Russia made up 10% of the English population in 1000 AD ) etc over a few thousand years. It became hard to keep track of all that kinship stuff. As you get further into Eastern Europe that mixing of cultures stops being such an influence . It is hard for us Americans to wrap our heads around it but its as real to those people as daylight. Everyone should be like us , right?The ability of humans to use and be influenced by an irrelevant grudge that should have no meaning to those alive today (e.g. the entire middle east) is something that I have trouble understanding. Obviously there are some American examples, and I can acknowledge that the basis for some intergenerational grudges may have negative impacts on those holding the grudges today (e.g. if I was a Native American I think I might be justified being pissed off at us land grabbing colonizers). However, I think that because I was raised in nation of immigrants that were, over time, forced to abandon those grudges to assimilate to achieve success, I really have a hard time grasping the mindset of those who would be influenced by those sorts of grudges.
We are, but never 100%. I'm a full on Northwest European Mutt whose ancestors were impressed Hessian mercenaries who went AWOL (or maybe surrendered or were captured) and joined up with the continental army, Belgian Catholics, and French Hugenots who moved to England and then here. I don't have any real ethnic connection to particular heritage or ethnicity...I only feel American. When I look at the Baltics and the Middle East, I'm damn grateful to be American. I only hope the recent political polarization, rural vs. city, conservative vs. liberal, etc., mindset doesn't really create that kind of political and social instability here.when I was a Kid in the 60's and 70's we were taught we were a melting pot!
Yes. It's fine to eat your great great grandparents food and follow their particular holiday traditions--variety is the spice of life--but it's fine not to hold their grudges.A lot of that comes from the English tradition. England was a melting pot long before American became one . Italians (Romans) , Germans, French , Norse and their slaves ( Slavs from what is now Russia made up 10% of the English population in 1000 AD ) etc over a few thousand years. It became hard to keep track of all that kinship stuff. As you get further into Eastern Europe that mixing of cultures stops being such an influence . It is hard for us Americans to wrap our heads around it but its as real to those people as daylight. Everyone should be like us , right?
unless of course they were from south of the mason dixie! My Point was we used to encourage National Pride, Now the great uniter has turned out to be no such thing. You talk about not holding grudges but isn't that all politics have become! I am an MLK believer, content of character. But don't pee on me and tell me to tolerate it!Yes. It's fine to eat your great great grandparents food and follow their particular holiday traditions--variety is the spice of life--but it's fine not to hold their grudges.
Why?Defend Chernobyl During an Invasion? Why Bother, Some Ukrainians Ask. (Published 2022)
Ukraine has initiated a defensive strategy for the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, one of the most radioactive places on Earth, which lies on the shortest path between Russia and Ukraine’s capital, Kyiv.www.nytimes.com
Yeah just wait until the state-sponsored hackers in Russia get spun up... I am sure you have a generator, though...Hactivists say they hacked Belarus rail system to stop Russian military buildup
If confirmed, the attack would be one of the first times ransomware has been used this way.arstechnica.com
Am I the only one who read that - and swapped the words "Russia" with "Mexico"...?Well this is pretty interesting.
Some highlights....
"...non-Russians, including Ukrainian citizens who still reside in occupied Crimea but who refused to obtain a Russian passport, can now be stripped of their property..."
"Since 2014, Russia has been employing traditional Soviet resettlement practices and forcibly changing the demographic composition of the population in Crimea."
"At the same time, Russia has been actively trying to increase the size of its "loyal" population by promoting and encouraging the in-migration of its citizens to Crimea. According to the Office of the Federal State Statistics Service in Crimea and Sevastopol, since 2014, 205,559 Russians moved to Crimea..."
https://jamestown.org/program/demog...migration-as-part-of-russias-hybrid-strategy/
But it's all great, right? Let's just snuggle up with little Vladdie and give him a nice back rub.