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You're all entitled to your opinions on people riding motorcycles through the neighborhoods.
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Bunch of F@#&!_$ idiots.
I don't blame him I place it on the riders. I have been riding 40 + years and you kind of riders make us all look bad.
1) You see something, you say something. Particularly if it involves questionable gun ownership behavior that reflects on ALL of us.What are your thoughts?
So basically it was just a group ride. Like when we have Bridge Pedal.Not a single thing anyone did justified this.
Not a single damned thing. Don't even try and justify this guys behaviour by blaming it on people riding motorcycles.
Taking a gun out into a public space, and aiming it at peoples heads is so bubbleguming far down the list of rational responses for this is boggles my mind you would even consider this.
I don't believe anyone riding with you care one little bit about how their behavior affects other people.Some of you guys really are trying your hardest to exonerate this guy huh.
I'm sure there's a few bad apples in any crowd but I can assure you that the majority of guys riding today weren't there to make anyone mad.
People do crazy stuff. Here in Portland some guy took issue with a fart can Honda auto going by his house and took it upon himself to spear the driver through the head with a steel rod, killing him.So I took part in a motorcycle event that weaves through Portlands alleys. Some people may have heard of it.
In theory its 100% legal as the alleys are public right of ways. Just the usual legalities apply, speed limits, sort signs, registered vehicles etc. But that is on the individual.
I can get that the hum drum of motorcycles going through the alley is potentially a pain in the butt (bare in mind that 90% of people were out there with the kids waving and having a great time as it's a pretty entertaining spectacle)
But In one alley, a man came out from his house onto public property and pointed a handgun at riders heads as they went past. Handgun raised and pointed in one hand, rifle (maybe a .308 or 30-30) in the other. He positioned himself so people had to go around/near him, some riders being only a few feet away, most going about 5-10mph because there was some congestion. Basically sitting ducks. We were quite obviously motorcycle enthusiasts, quite obviously not menacing nor threatening. There was no political slant at all, we could not have been mistaken for Vegan ISIS or anyone out to cause trouble/damage.
I'm 100% for your/my right to keep arms, I have multiple handguns and rifles. However, this guy is seriously problematic. If some motorcycles riding through an alley that happens to be behind your property is enough for you to snap and go out and threaten dozens of people at point blank then I personally don't think you are fit to keep weapons.
What are your thoughts? I feel like no ones really snitched on him, we all just wanted to get on our way and leave him in the rearview but I do worry about people having future entanglements with this gentleman.
And nobody in my post above was TRYING to make anyone mad. They were just being grossly inconsiderate of everyone around them. And no, I'm not defending the 1911 waver. But he wouldn't have been out there waving it if not for a bunch of selfish show offs purposely creating a public nuisance.Some of you guys really are trying your hardest to exonerate this guy huh.
I'm sure there's a few bad apples in any crowd but I can assure you that the majority of guys riding today weren't there to make anyone mad.
there are no crimes in oregon.The guy who pointed a gun at the bikers passing him on a public alley was way out of line. And guilty of the crime of 'menacing.' At least here in Oregon.
what cops? i heard they left or are leaving. unarmed park rangers are now responding to 911 calls, asking for your parking pass first.Waving guns around and point them at people seems like a first-class way to get shot, at minimum, the cops should have been called so they could have dealt with it.
Good thing for him that's not what actually happened.And the other guy thinks he confronted a gang of bikers terrorizing the neighborhood, perspective matters
I totally agree with this post.Waving guns around and point them at people seems like a first-class way to get shot, at minimum, the cops should have been called so they could have dealt with it.
I am horrified (not really) that you can't read peoples comments without understanding that a member here can call out both behaviors as being wrong here without supporting the neighbor pointing a gun. The vast majority of comments I have read calling out the aggravating behavior of the motorcyclist, also identified the behavior of the man pointing a gun as wrong/illegal.For the record, (and I'm horrified people that think doing questionable things on a motorcycle is worthy of potentially being shot over), no one in my group was riding on sidewalks, cycle paths etc.
that particular video posted above would be an extreme example of riders misbehaving.
but the point stands ... you're not the sheriff, or a judge. Definitely not an executioner. If you see something you don't like, call the law. Don't put people in a position where you could kill them for making loud braaap noises.