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I shot a man in Reno just to see him say ow.
nr
Must be using 9mm.
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I shot a man in Reno just to see him say ow.
nr
This podcast is an eye opener. Massad Ayoob interviewed a Chicago cop with 30+ years of experience. Along with some excellent advice ("You do what you need to do to get home at the end of the day. [In a gunfight] you have to come out the winner."), he recounts a story about a man who attacked his partner with a knife. The partner first shot the guy six times with Silvertip hollowpoint 45 Long Colt at very close range; all shots hit center mass. When that didn't stop the attacker, the partner then pulled his back-up gun and put five .38s from his J-frame revolver into the attacker's chest at point blank range. Still under attack, the partner called for help. The interviewee put four more shots into the guy's body (240 grain semi-jacketed flat-noise .44 Magnum bullets) with his Model 29 from 15 feet; 2 hits went into the attacker's upper torso, one into the guy's thigh and another into his kneecap. (That's 15 shots in all.) At that point, the two cops were able to cuff the attacker, who lived for 10 days before expiring. The autopsy showed there were no drugs in the attacker's blood which showed only .02 alcohol. By the way, the attacker was only 5 ft 7 inches tall and weighed about 140 pounds. "We physically decimated this guy."
The story starts at about 7 minutes 40 seconds into the podcast, with more in-depth details starting at 8:22 and the full description of the action starting at 9:30.
I don't see a link here. Am I missing something?
We have to reply to it so you can see what's in it.
One would think that after some unsuccessful torso shots, somebody would take the time to make a head shot... the guy can't knife attack in two directions at once!!!
You mentioned 45Long Colt (NOT 45acp.) in your post. So one partner was carrying a single action revolver? Interesting.
I will have to listen to this. Thank you.
I am NOT knocking either caliber and I used to own, carry and shoot a Ruger Blackhawk in 45Long Colt.
I personally Never owned a 45acp pistol but my MT husband owns a couple of 45acp pistols now and he has owned a LOT in the '45 caliber' - past tense.
I am glad that the 44Magnum handgun finally did the job.
Interesting that the bad guy kept on going and that it took ALL of that bullet power to STOP THE ATTACK. Interesting that he LIVED that long too!
Maybe they should have shot the bad guy in the throat or in the head after the first two or three shots did NOT bring him down. In other words, don't continue to repeat what does not work when you are trying to stop a direct threat on your life, your partner or your back up partners.
Cate
They say adrenaline will only get ya so far. Well this guy apparently was straight out of the wild Wild West movies. You'd think after all them Bullets laced through his gut and organs he'd be dead within an hour. Wowsas!!
Gets me thinking of lower torso to pelvis/hip area may could have dropped him. Possibly knees.. Proper flanking of target of course. Lot more bone to penetrate and shatter. Make the head shot from arm lengths away.
Well you read people complaining all the time "Did you even click the link?!!!!"
We have to reply to it so you can see what's in it.
I wonder why they did not AIM for the groin if all else failed and when they did NOT make a head/neck/throat shot. I would imagine that a GROIN gun shot on a male criminal that is trying to murder you and/or your partner would give so much pain to the criminal plus it would really cause a lot of blood loss. Cate
I don't see a link here. Am I missing something?
052 Interview with Bob Stasch of the Chicago Police Department - The ProArms PodcastWhere's the link?
Call me weird. But I like to actually look at links or read other people's posts before commenting on them.
I agree wholeheartedly with dcfranzen...! If any one of those had been a head shot, game over...! Center mass training is not for up close encounters and also no good against those BGs using body armor (not this case, I presume). Head shots work very well up close and personal and no body armor to contend with...!Too much training for torso hits and not enough for the head. Mess up the brain and it lights off.
In my own self defense drills I include one or two head shots (depending on distance), then body shots.
I was a reserve deputy sheriff for about a year. During that time i had to go through several days of firearms training and one in depth review of my ability with a firearm. We were told to never aim for the head and if a bullet did strike one of our targets that was counted a miss. However, shots in the neck area were counted as full value.Too much training for torso hits and not enough for the head. Mess up the brain and it lights off.
This podcast is an eye opener. Massad Ayoob interviewed a Chicago cop with 30+ years of experience. Along with some excellent advice ("You do what you need to do to get home at the end of the day. [In a gunfight] you have to come out the winner."), he recounts a story about a man who attacked his partner with a knife. The partner first shot the guy six times with Silvertip hollowpoint 45 Long Colt at very close range; all shots hit center mass. When that didn't stop the attacker, the partner then pulled his back-up gun and put five .38s from his J-frame revolver into the attacker's chest at point blank range. Still under attack, the partner called for help. The interviewee put four more shots into the guy's body (240 grain semi-jacketed flat-noise .44 Magnum bullets) with his Model 29 from 15 feet; 2 hits went into the attacker's upper torso, one into the guy's thigh and another into his kneecap. (That's 15 shots in all.) At that point, the two cops were able to cuff the attacker, who lived for 10 days before expiring. The autopsy showed there were no drugs in the attacker's blood which showed only .02 alcohol. By the way, the attacker was only 5 ft 7 inches tall and weighed about 140 pounds. "We physically decimated this guy."
The story starts at about 7 minutes 40 seconds into the podcast, with more in-depth details starting at 8:22 and the full description of the action starting at 9:30.