Pistol Caliber Carbines Look Ridiculous

[Alexx1401]

Is an AR15 chambered in pistol caliber considered a PCC? I like the looks of them almost as much as an AR15 chambered in rifle cartridge

Don't know if there is such a thing as an "official" definition but I do call my AR's in pistol caliber PCC's. Since they are of course chambered in a pistol caliber and are what I call a carbine.

 

[Ironbar]

I don't know. I think my Kel-Tec looks pretty neat.

 

[Major Payne]

Pcc's look ridiculous......ridiculously awesome !

 

[BigDog67]

Frankly I think most ALL "modern" rifles look ridiculous. YMMV

 

[Dinglenutz]

Every time I think I would like a PCC, I look at my MCX pistol and wonder "why would I not just use that?"

If the NFA were revoked, a PC SBR would be something I'd look at.

 

[Tomahawk67]

I like em long or short. AR or not.

 

[Hawksnw]

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Are vertical for grips legal? I read that the ATF banned them. Not sure it's being enforced though

 

[Mark W.]

It would be neat to see an M1 Carbine lookalike in :
.45acp
9mm
.40S&W
10mm

Or have Ruger bring back there original .44 Magnum carbine , but in the above calibers with the original tube magazine that Ruger had for their .44 Magnum carbines.
Andy

9mm M1 Carbine https://www.chiappafirearms.com/product.php?id=202 and way cheaper then a real one in 30 M1 which you can buy 4 different handguns chambered in. Granted except for the Rugar Blackhawk they are very rare and expensive.

 

[Tomahawk67]

Are vertical for grips legal? I read that the ATF banned them. Not sure it's being enforced though

Sure they're legal. Stop reading the internet.

 

[Member 5605]

Are vertical for grips legal? I read that the ATF banned them. Not sure it's being enforced though

Don't those look like SBR's to you? They do to me.

 

[Hawksnw]

Don't those look like SBR's to you? They do to me.

Good point I guess the mandate is only on LBR's!

 

[Marine Airedale]

I think so too. But to protect shoppers with such a beautiful rifle that holds only 7-rounds or less would get someone laughed out of the mall ninja association.

Ah yes those folks who put every conceivable piece of 'tactical' crap on an AR platform rifle known to man?

 

[nehalemguy]

Are vertical for grips legal? I read that the ATF banned them. Not sure it's being enforced though

Are vertical for grips legal? I read that the ATF banned them. Not sure it's being enforced though

They are a no-no on pistols. Ok on rifles and SBRs.

-E-

 

[Member 5605]

Good point I guess the mandate is only on LBR's!

incorrect.
They are no-go on pistols.
SBR's and Rifles are ok, shotguns are ok,

 

[Hawksnw]

incorrect.
They are no-go on pistols.
SBR's and Rifles are ok, shotguns are ok,

Seems silly to have a vertical foregrip on a pistol in the first place lol

 

[Hawksnw]

Seems silly to have a vertical foregrip on a pistol in the first place lol

According to this guy VFG aren't allowed on any rifles anymore? What's everyone's take?

 

[Hawksnw]

According to this guy VFG aren't allowed on any rifles anymore? What's everyone's take?

Supposedly any firearm under 26" which most PCC's are

 

[Boboclown]

According to this guy VFG aren't allowed on any rifles anymore? What's everyone's take?

They aren't allowed on pistols under a certain OAL length as it reclassifies the pistol as an AOW.

Still good to go on rifles legally.

 

[Hawksnw]

Supposedly any firearm under 26" which most PCC's are

I'm just curious because I would have opted to put a VFG on my rifle but after seeing this I went with a handstop just for legality purposes.

 

[Member 5605]

Supposedly any firearm under 26" which most PCC's are

Pistols. Not rifles.
The debate was based on length of pistols over 26"

PCC

• Pistol
• Caliber
• Carbine

Does not specify length
A PPC is a pistol caliber RIFLE, though most will equate a PCC to any pistol caliber platform not looking like a traditional pistol.
A Carbine by definition is a 16" barrel ~ish. 16" barrel puts it at a rifle.