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the kids story is straight up bs the birdshot would not have spread that much in 10 ft.
At 10 feet it is just barely out of the wad.
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the kids story is straight up bs the birdshot would not have spread that much in 10 ft.
the kids story is straight up bs the birdshot would not have spread that much in 10 ft.
just a loss of velocity with a sawed-off barrel
Shotgun Pattern Testing - FirearmsID.com
scroll down to the lower 3rd of the page, that's a lot of deflection from contact in a very short distance.
If you live in Portland and Multnomah County and you shoot someone who is not armed in your house and he/she/it (it is Portland after all) and they die you are going to go to prison unless you have lots of money to fight it. (No more guns for you)
just a loss of velocity with a sawed-off barrel
Shotgun Pattern Testing - FirearmsID.com
scroll down to the lower 3rd of the page, that's a lot of deflection from contact in a very short distance.
Well, the pictures are the end result, after penetration in tissues of varying densities. From what I've seen even from ballistic gel shots, once the shot hits the material, it'll deflect. And maybe the kid shot him with a sawed off shotgun, which probably enhances the spread a bit too.
Folks, really, for HD look up #4 buckshot. It's truly nasty bad stuff. She isn't the hottest after 30 yards but thats not why I choose it for HD.
have you ever tried using buckshot on clay pigeons? so you are comparing apples to oranges (you would be lucky to hit a clay pigeon) also you must have a very large house to have those type of distances to shoot in a h d situation.They call it "Bird Shot" for a reason. Please, anyone, find any professional that recomends birdshot for self-defense, or one self-defense ammo that uses birdshot. It doesn't exist, because you need the larger mass to ensure penetration of clothing, skin and bones. Use some sort of buckshot. I understand not wanting to overpenetrate in an apartment, or something is better than nothing, but birdshot doesn't even demolish clay pigeons on the range. If my life or my family is in danger, I want something that will stop the threat. OO buck for me.
2-3/4" 00buck in the chamber with 2-3/4" #4buck stacked in the tube. I have a slug on my bedside table but im not sure for what. . . . Seems to me like 2-3/4" ought to be fine but i dont know the "true" answer. The mixed loads sound cool and im sure they work real well but its cheaper to keep it 00 and #4 for practice
I dont get the "Racking a shotgun" thing. It seems like a lack of familiarity with the weapon system itself. I mean, racking the shotgun at the beginning either means you didnt have one in the chamber (wtf?) or it means you thought at the last minute "Oops! I brought one too many rounds to this fight. Better throw this one away so it rolls under the couch where i can find it later, in case I need it, in that other fight." Seriously though, i dont get it.
I too leave some lights on in the house. +1 To training in your house (No live fire folks!)