Trump Admin Is Considering Using Amazon Echo And Apple Watch To Determine If Citizens Should Own A Gun

[awshoot]

NR,

Hhmmm, my Nook e-reader is hooked up to wi-fi, so I suppose even it can monitor me, so back to paper books for me, sigh...

I checked the specs, it does have a microphone. Aside from a phone/laptop, I won't buy any device with a mic in it. I can push the dang buttons on a remote control and as I sure as heck don't need kitchen appliances that listen!

 

[awshoot]

What about my toaster, fridge, heck, stove?

They're all part of the electronic consortium.

Thank gawd my toilets are analog...

Just wait a bit.

Google wants to make a smart toilet to analyse your health

Google's latest patent transforms bathrooms into lifesaving devices. Filed in 2015, this application describes noninvasive health-monitoring devices that can ‘sense’ the person’s health.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[nwslopoke]

So far.

How long before they become mandatory?

My computer has a microphone and a camera. So does my smartphone. Any landline telephone has a microphone. The government has had the capability for some time now to turn on any of these devices and to monitor us via those devices, without us being aware that they are.

I believe it, based on the fact it's been ineffective. Diane Feinstein had a Chinese spy and the government hasn't been able to stop mass shootings even with tips and direct phone calls. Hell, the states #1 witness just got suicided while being monitored. I am worried about government overreach in principal only.

 

[RTFM]

I don't have Amazon anything
I don't have Netflix
I don't do Facebook ever
I don't stream music
I don't health monitor
I've opted out of electronic healthcare I make my doctor print my charts

I may appear to be a neophyte but I saw this coming years ago, and the wife has been right there with me all along.

Queue the pre-cogs

 

[awshoot]

I don't have Amazon anything
I don't have Netflix
I don't do Facebook ever
I don't stream music
I don't health monitor
I've opted out of electronic healthcare I make my doctor print my charts

I may appear to be a neophyte but I saw this coming years ago, and the wife has been right there with me all along.

Queue the pre-cogs

Going by your username, I'm guessing you're pretty sophisticated about technology.

I have one foot in the spyware-consortium and one out. Netflix is hard to give up, but I've been a long term facebook objector. I do try to block and avoid as much as I can without going completely dark, but technology is so byzantine, it's hard to know how successful I am. I do know enough to know I don't really know anything at all.

 

[Gbirk]

I think it is actually good policy. If you are stupid enough to put an Amazon Echo in your house, you are probably too stupid to allow to own a gun.

We used to warn our children about the government spying on us.....now we purchase the microphone and put it in our bedroom. Now listen, I don't think the government is actually using Echo's to spy on us, but they are absolutely subpoenaing the recordings that Amazon keeps. Also, if you think Amazon is doing a good job at securing your private data you are very mistaken.

 

[MannyGlocks]

So, ah, maybe the homeless are on to something what with their low electronic footprint and all...?

 

[Alexx1401]

I did a searh on the Infowars site to see if Trump's pet poodle is talking about this, and noticed that there is complete silence there. I guess that means there is no cause for alarm, as Trump must be playing a game of advanced 64D chess.

I hear tinfoil is now in short supply due to a rush on it at stores. Good thing I have a few rolls. It will be worth a mint on ebay until they catch up

 

[awshoot]

I hear tinfoil is now in short supply due to a rush on it at stores. Good thing I have a few rolls. It will be worth a mint on ebay until they catch up

Meh -- chicken wire is where it's at. Just wrap your house with it and connect it to ground.

 

[44Brent]

I think it is actually good policy. If you are stupid enough to put an Amazon Echo in your house, you are probably too stupid to allow to own a gun.

We used to warn our children about the government spying on us.....now we purchase the microphone and put it in our bedroom. Now listen, I don't think the government is actually using Echo's to spy on us, but they are absolutely subpoenaing the recordings that Amazon keeps. Also, if you think Amazon is doing a good job at securing your private data you are very mistaken.

It could be that one of the rules is "Anyone who doesn't have Alexa installed is a Luddite who is not competent to operate a smart gun".

Or, it could be that the problem isn't the devices, and the problem is the PERSON (aka Donald Trump).

 

[FullMetalJerk]

Make America China Again....

 

[cigars]

My wife has that echo device, ( i hate that thing).. i told it to intitiate self destruct sequence. It responded by saying, that it would If i dramatically stopped the sequence before it got to zero... Oh well i gave it a try.

Place a peanut butter jar over it to keep it from snooping. The if you want, remove the peanut butter first. You know, becuse you care.

 

[No_Regerts]

So, ah, maybe the homeless are on to something what with their low electronic footprint and all...?

They aren't home-less, they are home-free!

 

[The Heretic]

I believe it, based on the fact it's been ineffective. Diane Feinstein had a Chinese spy and the government hasn't been able to stop mass shootings even with tips and direct phone calls. Hell, the states #1 witness just got suicided while being monitored. I am worried about government overreach in principal only.

You are assuming that the gov cared about those problems enough to stop them, and/or actually wanted to stop them, much less didn't actually want them to continue as they played into their plans.

I don't believe that the gov actually is behind mass shootings, but I do believe that they might turn a blind eye to them so that they can enact laws that disarm the public. They might also turn a blind eye to the underlying causes for the same reason. Either way, the gov knows gun control laws are mostly ineffective in stopping criminal use of guns - but they care much less about criminals with guns than they do about disarming the populace.

 

[The Heretic]

Meh -- chicken wire is where it's at. Just wrap your house with it and connect it to ground.

Chicken wire has holes that are too large - you need a mesh that is finer; closer to the mesh on a screen door.

 

[Member 5605]

You are assuming that the gov cared about those problems enough to stop them....

I don't believe that the gov actually is behind mass shootings, but I do believe that they might turn a blind eye to them so that they can enact laws that disarm the public.

True!

 

[Stomper]

Don't forget this in the coming future!!

Smart City IoT Solutions from Intel

Wonder how officials would use this technology to "help us".

PS by some of the replies in here: Ted Kaczynski - Wikipedia

Summary[edit]
Industrial Society and Its Future begins with Kaczynski's assertion: "The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race."[74][75] He writes that technology has had a destabilizing effect on society, has made life unfulfilling, and has caused widespread psychological suffering.[76] He argues that most people spend their time engaged in useless pursuits because of technological advances; he calls these "surrogate activities" wherein people strive toward artificial goals, including scientific work, consumption of entertainment, and following sports teams.[76] He predicts that further technological advances will lead to extensive human genetic engineering and that human beings will be adjusted to meet the needs of the social systems, rather than vice versa.[76] He believes that technological progress can be stopped, unlike people who understand technology's negative effects yet passively accept it as inevitable.[77] He calls for a return to "wild nature."[76]
Kaczynski argues that the erosion of human freedom is a natural product of an industrial society because "the system has to regulate human behavior closely in order to function", and that reform of the system is impossible because "changes large enough to make a lasting difference in favor of freedom would not be initiated because it would be realized that they would gravely disrupt the system".[78] However, he states that the system has not yet fully achieved "control over human behavior" and "is currently engaged in a desperate struggle to overcome certain problems that threaten its survival". He predicts that "if the system succeeds in acquiring sufficient control over human behavior quickly enough, it will probably survive. Otherwise it will break down," and that "the issue will most likely be resolved within the next several decades, say 40 to 100 years".[78] He states that the task of those who oppose industrial society is to promote "social stress and instability" and to propagate "an ideology that opposes technology", one that offers the "counter-ideal" of nature "in order to gain enthusiastic support". A "revolution against technology may be possible" when industrial society is sufficiently unstable.[79]
Throughout the document, Kaczynski addresses left-wing politics as a movement. He defines leftists as "mainly socialists, collectivists, 'politically correct' types, feminists, gay and disability activists, animal rights activists and the like",[80] states that leftism is driven primarily by "feelings of inferiority" and "oversocialization",[76] and derides leftism as "one of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world".[80] He additionally states that "a movement that exalts nature and opposes technology must take a resolutely anti-leftist stance and must avoid all collaboration with leftists", as in his view "leftism is in the long run inconsistent with wild nature, with human freedom and with the elimination of modern technology".[74] He also criticizes conservatives, describing them as "fools" who "whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth."[80]

AKA.... The Unabomber...

 

[Rickenbacher39]

Does all of this mean we are all going to die?
Again?
I hate it when that happens.
Which seems to be daily lately.
You should see my neighbor.
His tinfoil hat is so big he can't even lift it.
He just lays there, frozen in fear, whimpering.
When he finally dies I want his tractor.
After I unwrap all the tinfoil from it of course.............

 

[parallax]

The problem with Tin foil, chicken wire, layered VPN, encryption, is that's where government Wants to find out what your hiding for.

 

[Ownerus]

RFID cloth? A friend has a small fabric store and gave me a piece to play with It's supposed to prevent scanning of chips on credit cards etc. FWIW, I wrapped my cell phone in it and called it from another phone. It didn't ring.
Might prove handier than tin foil