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Aero Above is not far off. When Cedar Hills lost power a few weeks ago and telephone lines, many people abandoned their homes for several nights. Really tough folks here. Just left their homes.
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Mmmm, nothing like putting rotting corpses in your nearest water source.
I guess if you got your water from upstream, it would be an easy way to get rid of that pesky neighbor problem.
People will be generous and helpful in the immediate aftermath of any SHTF. It's when the food runs out...or, more accurately, when people realize its GOING TO run out...that all bets are off...
My favorite, "The veneer of civilization is thin".
The public water distribution I am most familiar with is the City of Hillsboro water system. They have their main impoundment Barney Reservoir on the north fork of the Trask River. That water shed is fairly open to public travel. They utilize a siphon system to bring the water over a couple ridges and dump it into the Tualatin River in the Cherry Grove area. The water then flows down the Tualatin River about 15 miles to their water treatment plant where they pump it out, treat it and then pump it into various reservoirs around the metro area.
Now you can bet your azz that over the years there has been a fair amount of dead animals of all kinds thrown in that river, people shi8ing in it, more than one or two deer and elk carcasses thrown in there every fall. Any water coming out of any river around here needs to be treated , boiled, boiled again, boiled again.
There are some pretty impressive bone piles in the river in the summer time, they sediment in pretty quick each fall.
People will be generous and helpful in the immediate aftermath of any SHTF. It's when the food runs out...or, more accurately, when people realize its GOING TO run out...that all bets are off...
I hope I can get to Cabela's in time!!So the lesson here is to plan on shooting everyone.
If there is a full on quake with the power outages, overpasses collapsing and grocery store not being able to be resupplied you and your neighborhood may be on your own for 2-4 weeks at least. If the emergency equipment can even get around they will be going out to try and help the most people possible at one time, and you aren't it. They may even let a house burn down because they have 'more important' places to be and things to do. You know that seconds and minutes away saying? This could be days to weeks and maybe even a month. If it is less, yea God, but if its more thats why we are prepping.This has always been my "plan". I figure it it turns into a full scale war we are not going to be able to keep our home. To me the real world thing is natural disaster. Here for me it's quake. So as long as the house does not fall down we have shelter. It may take days, maybe a week for order to be restored. In that time The freaks will prey on the weak. Those unprepared for what happens when there is no 911 are out of luck. I think of it as it was during the LA riots. They were burning Korean stores because of that old lady who shot that kid. The owners who were armed and showed it were left alone. The packs of animals left to go look for easier targets. Figure my house will be like that. They will look for easier targets.
Read some where that the US economy only has about 30 days of wheat available at any one time. Used in lots of things, power outages would mean most water service, gas pumps(fuel), cooking equipment(food), TVs & cell towers(communications), computers and phone service would all come to a stop. All of those people who are doing nothing to prepare themselves would become our worst neighbors. You can help some but not all. Question is: how do you make that choice and still protect your family?If there is a full on quake with the power outages, overpasses collapsing and grocery store not being able to be resupplied you and your neighborhood may be on your own for 2-4 weeks at least. If the emergency equipment can even get around they will be going out to try and help the most people possible at one time, and you aren't it. They may even let a house burn down because they have 'more important' places to be and things to do. You know that seconds and minutes away saying? This could be days to weeks and maybe even a month. If it is less, yea God, but if its more thats why we are prepping.
Read some where that the US economy only has about 30 days of wheat available at any one time. Used in lots of things, power outages would mean most water service, gas pumps(fuel), cooking equipment(food), TVs & cell towers(communications), computers and phone service would all come to a stop. All of those people who are doing nothing to prepare themselves would become our worst neighbors. You can help some but not all. Question is: how do you make that choice and still protect your family?
If overpasses drop all over the city you may not know what has happened to some of your family for some time.
Just thinking how some in my family think I'm paranoid.
When I just feel I'm being prepared.
Maybe we can just split the difference, and call me preparanoid H?
Most preppers have not included waste ~~~ S__T disposal. AS all sewer systems will be down {clogged ] It will be a HUGE problem for city dwellers. Imagine a week W/O sewer in your neighborhood.
Solution ~~ buy a porta potty and store your yard tools in it ~~ if someone asks. Cheap tool storage shed