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Yeah I saw that, and some POS pulled his tazer, f me, total POS.I don't think this occurred. But to not go in and start cuffing parents is messed up.
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Yeah I saw that, and some POS pulled his tazer, f me, total POS.I don't think this occurred. But to not go in and start cuffing parents is messed up.
Current training for the last at least 5 years is for first responders to use their training and judgment to enter and engage the shooter at schools. The local COP had his guys stand down based on "not hearing any more gun fire".I guess I was trained differently. If an active shooter is actively pulling the trigger you NEVER wait. You run to the shots of gun fire. If the shooting stops then you stop and start methodically searching rooms. Even if that was their SOP…. F-ck that. Do your job even if it means you loose it or your life.
It doesn't surprise me though that you are starting to see this more and more. LE agencies are hiring a specific individual who fits in a mold. Our culture demands "nice" and "friendly" or "people oriented" officers now. Well this is what you get. And kids will keep dying while "men" with guns stand outside in safety cause it's "what they were trained/told to do."
Read some Medal of Honor recipients and their stories. Many going against training or commands. I'd fear living with the knowledge that I could have done something and didn't much more than the fear of loosing my life or my job. Period. I won't stand by and apologize for "men" who had less courage then the mothers and fathers who wanted to storm into that building. It's pathetic. It's weak. It's sickening. And it's going to continue.
Well their judgement was $hit. And their priorities were f-cked.Current training for the last at least 5 years is for first responders to use their training and judgment to enter and engage the shooter at schools. The local COP had his guys stand down based on "not hearing any more gun fire".
The teacher that locked the door open and the COP ordering his guys to stand down have a lot of guestions to answer and lots of sleepless nights!
At least someone's getting quality training.The training for active shooter is basic...CQB principles coupled with Hunter/Killer mind set...the rabid dog must go down now.
We all know people with shiny on their collars are corrupt. There is a reason people go against their policies. Cause they costs lives.This was a great big cluster phuck right from the start, and it all starts at the top with whom ever set policy on these things. Who in their right mind would have his troopers show up and just stand around securing the outside areas, and then await,........................What, Higher command authority to show up and give orders, or,............................await SWAT if that even exists? Heads need to roll biggly!
Don't forget, SCOTUS ruled that LEO have no duty to risk their lives to protect US, and if this dept chief chooses to follow that ruling, he needs to be removed from his position right quick and in a hurry like, post Rikky Tic! SCOTUS put us all in a bad place with that ruling, right or wrong, it screwed us all, police have no duty or responsibility to protect, and we have no right to carry with out permission and under Strict restrictions in many places! SCOTUS left us wide open and has consistently avoided a 2nd case that would empower us with our full rights to self protection with out restriction or permission!
Cause kids aren't worth enough or contribute a profit to those making the laws. Sadly.We protect our military with guns, our president is protected by guns, our elected officials are protected by guns, our banks are protected by guns; why aren't our most precious assets being protected by guns?
Hopefully the jacka$$ that propped open the side door that the killer used to enter, for one.No doubt someone, probably at the top, will lose their job over this. As for the rest? I just don't know what the hell to say. When this first hit I suspected this would be the way it went. Sadly it was worse than I feared. Sadly this is the way they are trained. One or two LEO's can't just run in when the rest are ordered to not so they all stand there. One mom was cuffed, released, ran to anther part of the place and ran into the school and got her two kids out. While Police were still standing outside because they were ordered to stand there. Bottom line if some kook comes into some building everyone in there is on their own. This is why I have always carried at work. If I could I will run. If trapped? I will not sit in a corner waiting my turn to be shot while Police are standing outside being ordered to do nothing. Everyone of course has to do what they are comfortable with. I do me, they can do them.
And all 19 cops that just stood in the hallway along with their "commander" who made that stellar call. There is a lot of issue with this whole scenario and I hope heads roll.Hopefully the jacka$$ that propped open the side door that the killer used to enter, for one.
FIFYThat would go against the push to have an inclusive and diverse and equitable police force which has been prioritized for years.
The right thing - they arm their teachers.What do schools in Israel do to protect their students?
How about a weak and stupid "commander". Impossible to say if individual officers had guts and/or training when their commander is a weak pussy that won't do anything "until more equipment arrives". The officers had to follow that coward's orders they had no choice unless they were to go rogue and lose their job.First of all let me state unequivocally, that no one has more respect fo first responders than I do.
That being said, I would be very interested in knowing the quantity and quality of the training the first responders have had over the last 24-36 months.
Based on the most recent reports, I feel the responders may be missing some of the tools (quality training and education) that they need to perform their jobs at the highest levels.
Best,
Gary