Seattle is falling? Maybe its time to disband the SPD

[Mikej]

It's also one of the words that has been weaponized for political gain and favored by the dishonest / or ignorant, as an attempt to redirect public attention away from any of their own arguments severe lack of substance.

That's a sad sad truth for sure.

 

[Certaindeaf]

So fing sad and so misguided, not a single brain cell between the lot of them.

You know they're all on the dole, aka the government class.

 

[American123]

You know they're all on the dole, aka the government class.

My experience at grad school was a lot of people who buy into this type of propaganda went to private schools where everyone looked "like them" and then had opinions provided to them to regurgitate by people in positions of influence. None of them were 'on the dole.' There are a lot of sheltered people who grew up to hold opinions that were fostered in isolation away from people they claim now matter.

 

[wewaits]

Why did you quote me since nothing you said related to anything I said.

Also: what does racism mean? Because based on how often that word is now used and seemingly that it has become the single most overused word as of late to describe a great number of completely irrelevant things, and by nature, now meaningless and worthless, as a result.

It's also one of the words that has been weaponized for political gain and favored by the dishonest / or ignorant, as an attempt to redirect public attention away from any of their own arguments severe lack of substance.

I actually don't know how that happened I was replying to another member. You may want to rethink your stance on racism though, if you aren't a person of color you can't really expound on the subject with any credibility in this great country of ours anyways.

 

[wewaits]

You know they're all on the dole, aka the government class.

So is everyone else in America at this point. The bulk of government handouts go to white rural America, Red states use the most.

States that voted for Trump depend the most on ‘big government’

One of the worst offenders is Mitch McConnell’s home state of Kentucky, according to this WalletHub study.

www.marketwatch.com

AP FACT CHECK: Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican leaders have spent months promoting the myth that red low-tax states are subsidizing blue high-tax states because of the deduction for state and local taxes.

apnews.com

New Federal Spending Plan Includes Timber Money For Oregon Counties, Wyden Says

U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden said he’s helped negotiate another extension of federal aid for timber-dependent counties.

www.opb.org

 

[American123]

I actually don't know how that happened I was replying to another member. You may want to rethink your stance on racism though, if you aren't a person of color you can't really expound on the subject with any credibility in this great country of ours anyways.

Another lie from "anti-freedom" people that white people can't experience or have opinion about racism. If you want some free education more accurate than wherever you got that ridiculous statement from, here you go:

If you claim a person's credibility to talk about racism rests on their skin tone, that's racist.

 

[FourTeeFive]

If I were a Seattle cop and not close enough to retirement to get out early, I'd be sending resumes out to every small town PD in the country to get out of there and not into another similar predicament.

They don't have to go very far. Bellevue and Mukilteo, for example, seem to have much stronger leadership in the police departments.

 

[FourTeeFive]

No,
They'll simply move away and pollute the next town they live in
Like the man said "Liberalism is a mental disorder."

That's how Portland and Seattle became what they are today. They used to be nice cities until the same people that ruined San Francisco and other cities decided to come up and here and spread their brand of social justice.

 

[Certaindeaf]

My experience at grad school was a lot of people who buy into this type of propaganda went to private schools where everyone looked "like them" and then had opinions provided to them to regurgitate by people in positions of influence. None of them were 'on the dole.' There are a lot of sheltered people who grew up to hold opinions that were fostered in isolation away from people they claim now matter.

My point is I'd bet most all of them have worse than useless government jobs.

 

[wewaits]

Another lie from "anti-freedom" people that white people can't experience or have opinion about racism. If you want some free education more accurate than wherever you got that ridiculous statement from, here you go:

If you claim a person's credibility to talk about racism rests on their skin tone, that's racist.

I will go with my experiences and education, thanks though.

 

[wewaits]

I will go with my experiences and education, thanks though.

 

[American123]

I will go with my experiences and education, thanks though.

Hope you didn't pay a lot for it if the previous was an example, you got taken.

 

[bentoncity]

Well let's see about the racism thing. I googled it because we ALL KNOW google has the answers..
I was amazed here's the un-edited results I discovered.
15 Racist Words You Probably Use Every Day Without Knowing

• Hooligan Hooligan is actually a racial slur to describe a dirty and drunk Irish man.
• Vandal Vandals is actually a racial term to describe filthy Germans. Vandals were the Germanic tribe that sacked Rome, and that's where the word is rooted from.
• Eskimo You may be horrified, but Eskimo is a racist term. It is sourced from the word "ashkimeq", which means eaters of raw meat. The correct word to describe them is Inuit.
• Eenie meenie miney mo These words were from the poem –"Eenie, meenie, miney, moe "Catch a tiger by the toe "If it squeals, let it go "Eenie, meenie, miney, moe…" But in the 1800s, Americans frequently replaced the word tiger with "nigg*r". The next time you use the words to choose, remind yourself of the racist history behind this phrase.
• Hip hip hooray! The first part – "hip hip" was used by Germans to control a herd of sheep. They used the same words when they went Jew hunting in Germany too.
• Rule of thumb This phrase originated in England where men used canes no thicker than their thumbs to beat up their women. Hence the term – "rule of the thumb" Feel better now?
• Long Time, No See We all know it is the shortened version of "I haven't seen you in a long time!" But the term was actually used to mock people who couldn't use good English and by saying "Long time, no see" Not so hip anymore, is it?
• Gypsy People use Gyp to describe a person who cheats. But the word Gypsy is used by the Europeans to describe the Romani tribe that travels by selling things across the continent. Even the word Gypsy is racist.
• Barbarian In the olden times, the word barbarian was used by the Greek to refer to anyone who was non-Greek. In that sense all of us non-greeks are barbarians. But it was used as a racist word.
• Bugger Bugger is actually an abbreviation for "Bulgarian homosexual". The Dutch used this word to mock the Bulgarian refugees and migrants.
• Ghetto Ghetto is sourced from the Italian word "ghet" or "waste". It was used in Italy to refer to the residences of low-class people.
• Spook This word is extremely racist because Americans in the 1800s used the word "spook" to refer to dark-skinned African American people who would "blend" in the dark night sky and "spook" them.
• Jock Jock is actually a racial slur used by the English to insult the Scots. But it can be used as a term to venerate the Scottish royalty too.
• Mumbo Jumbo Mumbo jumbo is a word you use when something said to you doesn't make sense at all. Actually, mumbo jumbo was the beating African tribes gave to their women. Mumbo jumbo is literally beating a woman.
• Cannibal The cannibals were an indigenous tribe in the West Indies that did NOT partake in eating each other. But they were accused of this cannibalism by an Italian colonist. And hence, just like the Vandals, the name got stuck for a very bad thing.
  As they say, English is a funny language, albeit racist too, I guess.

I'm sure everyone is now feeling better after getting an education....

Dan

 

[wewaits]

Another lie from "anti-freedom" people that white people can't experience or have opinion about racism. If you want some free education more accurate than wherever you got that ridiculous statement from, here you go:

If you claim a person's credibility to talk about racism rests on their skin tone, that's racist.

Also I'm not anti freedom, I fought for ours

Hope you didn't pay a lot for it if the previous was an example, you got taken.

Ok if you want to keep going with this line of crap, You can't experience racism unless your race is in the minority, you may have had a negative experience with bias because you were left out, thats a different story. I don't know where you went to grad school but maybe you should've stayed awake and learned something. I didn't get my thoughts and ideas from grad school, mine came via the good old US Army, life, combat, sports and parenthood. Maybe you should ask for your tuition back?

 

[HA556]

If you claim a person's credibility to talk about racism rests on their skin tone, that's racist.

Absolutely! Racism has nothing to do with skin color. It's a mind set against a certain people regardless where they are from!

Look at the French. Everyone hates the French and they're white! (Except French Fries. Love me some salty fries!)

 

[Idaho44]

Another lie from "anti-freedom" people that white people can't experience or have opinion about racism. If you want some free education more accurate than wherever you got that ridiculous statement from, here you go:

If you claim a person's credibility to talk about racism rests on their skin tone, that's racist.

OK this BS has gone for so long and is quite pathetic. A person of 'color' means ANY color. Just because I am WHITE does not mean I have not been discriminated upon by a person who is BLACK, BROWN, YELLOW, RED etc. Only those who have been raised in severely sheltered environment thinks that 'color' means 'non white'. During the 'sixties' lots of 'protester' folks thought the solution to our 'ills' was a socialist or communistic path. It never entered their feeble brain buckets that ANY political system is about POWER not FREEDOM. NOTHING has changed for those on the bottom and self imposed poverty DOES NOT make you a hero or martyr! True change comes from within and cannot be imposed in any way!

 

[Archangel17]

Riots are going on still in many places. The media has just slowed their coverage as they switch to covid fear mongering. Riots were helping Trumps popularity to much. By the way, stop calling these people protesters, they are rioters. We are long past "protests." This is a violent marxist revolution.

 

[GWS]

well, the Nazi's didn't see anything wrong with what they did either, had a justification for every action, and would have probably called my grandpa and his pals fascist for invading their county and damaging their property.

Not sure what your point is here. Just like the Nazis, Antifa doesn't see anything wrong with what they do either. They clearly don't think their defacing and/or destruction of other people's property is wrong. So because Antifa is OK with that, they should be allowed to do it unchecked? The Nazi analogy is ludicrous. They had their own perjoratives for the Allies, but I sincerely doubt that "fascist" was one of them
Besides, that was a declared war between multiple nations. and I hope you will agree that the Nazis needed to be destroyed. It appears you are saying the rioting is the same thing, as the Allies vs the Nazis. Not so. Antifa is NOT a group of noble protesters fighting injustice. At best, they are anarchists, using the protests as a cover for them to trash and loot businesses and government buildings.

what does that say about police who hang out and work with racists and murderers? What does that say about PP/PB rallies that invite known white supremacist gangs to join them?

stereotypes exist for a reason, I guess.

Racists are everywhere and every color. You will be hard pressed to be in a group of any size and not have racists in. That word is beaten to death by the left anyway. Nonetheless I ask you-Who are the murderers the police are hanging out with?
And regarding PP/PB How many buildings have they defaced, looted or burned?And what white supremacist groups did Patriot Prayer invite to join them?
And you know, for a white supremacy group Proud Boys have more than a few people of color in their ranks. Why is that. Are they just there to do the racism that white folks are too lazy to do for themselves?

the vast majority are peaceful, so, what are you getting at? Graffiti and thrown water bottles are the tipping point for receding constitutional rights?

No, they are the tipping point of turning a peaceful protest into a riot.
Why are you always so OK with people defacing and/or wrecking other people's property?

 

[WillametteWill]

they're accused of it, because alot of the time, they are.

Sorry, going to call complete and utter BS on this one. You quote one media report and paint thousands of others the same way. My old department (not Seattle or PPB) had over 350,000 citizen contacts last year. Officers have had video going back 30 years in one form or another. Meticulous use of force records are kept anytime someone goes hands on. .118% resulted in ANY use of force. Yet media would make you think it is constant and racist.

Officers get outed as being bad by other officers. Thank the courts and leftists labor laws for not allowing them to be removed. Officers want bad officers gone as well, it's horrible working with them and you end up cleaning up messes (i.e. they did not complete a call correctly so now you have to). We had someone who was convicted of peeping while not at work. Horrible. Courts made the department keep him. Court ordered. Department wanted him gone, every officer wanted him gone as well and refused to work with him.

I will tell you what happens a lot that you never hear about or see from media. Citizens come in to make a complaint that the officer was mean, unprofessional or racist. Oh, they didn't know we have recorders. The managers spin the monitor around of the traffic stop and hit play and tell the person to let them know when the officer is unprofessional. Suddenly they are shocked, knowing that they are about to hear themselves cursing, being racists, etc., while the officer politely just takes it. If the officer DID something wrong, action was taken. If the citizen made a false complaint, no one hears about it. There was a time where officer could actually sue people for making false complaints like this in small claims court.

 

[CLT65]

I actually don't know how that happened I was replying to another member. You may want to rethink your stance on racism though, if you aren't a person of color you can't really expound on the subject with any credibility in this great country of ours anyways.

I have to agree with the other guy; what you said there does come off as a bit racist. But then, "racism" has been re-defined in this country. I've come to realize that it's generally accepted among the left now, that if your skin is light-toned and you don't have constant "white guilt", then you are by default racist (whether you know it or not). This is absurd. Believe it or not, there are millions of conservative "white people" in this country who absolutely abhor racism. False cries of racism for the slightest perceived slight detract from real problems, and sometimes give people an excuse to not see real racism.

You can't experience racism unless your race is in the minority

Now this is different. Your first statement implied that you can't have a credible opinion, whereas this second statement is more understandable. For example, I have a good friend who is a white guy. His wife is Hispanic. He said they were talking one day and he opined that racism doesn't really exist anymore and "white privileged" is baloney.

She's a strong, conservative woman, and she surprised him with her strong disagreement. He said that she changed his perspective, as she has experienced racial bias in her life. He had never had those experiences, had never treated anyone badly because of race or ethnicity, and simply didn't know.

"if you aren't a person of color you can't really expound on the subject with any credibility"

I do thank you for this though. Now I feel I can ignore white SJWs on the subject with impunity. My Hispanic, Asian, and African-American friends and acquaintances seem to have more realistic views on the issue anyhow.