Is NWFA Anti-Gun?

[The B]

Reading through this whole thread I just have to wonder - if the folks who are planning to compile this list will truly be distributing that information via leaflets, etc. at various gatherings, gun shows, etc., then it seems that it shouldn't be difficult to wait a month or so and watch for them to show up. At that time, it should be very easy to identify who sent this -whether it be Cease Fire, WCFA or someone else. If they don't show at all, then it was just a ruse meant to stir the pot - and it certainly has done that.

A couple of you seem to be missing the point of the letter- it's to sponsors of NWFA. To get them to STOP financially supporting NWFA. The letter isn't addressed to NWFA- it went out to those who support us.

The author likely never intended any of US to read it.

 

[Chee-to]

I think Joe simply refuses to accept the Right's claim to ownership over 2A rights. It's a load of crap. Yes- I'll give the Right credit for doing most of the torch carrying, but that doesn't give you ownership. Besides- while the Right has been carrying the 2nd torch, we've been carrying ALL THE OTHERS.

We all have our part. It doesn't make a damn bit of difference what someone's political leaning are- if we're pro-2A, we're pro-2A and allies on this topic. NOBODY is saying we need to suffer fakers who claim to support the 2A while talking "common sense measures" BS. Joe Biden loves his shotguns, but he hates my ARs- he's no friend of mine, so what if both our ties are blue.

Let's not talk about all the other torches the left carries, that's what causes all the crap slinging. The problem I see, is the fact people on here would vote "Biden for prez" on principals alone..................

 

[The B]

The problem I see, is the fact people on here would vote "Biden for perz" on principals alone..................

Easily fixed by following the long-established rule- no political discussion.

 

[Chee-to]

Easily fixed by following the long-established rule- no political discussion.

Unless it involves the 2nd Amendment, and who is trying to destroy it...........

 

[The B]

Unless it involves the 2nd Amendment, and who is trying to destroy it...........

What gives? You're perfectly welcome to point out any basterd trying to damage the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Chee-to]

What gives? You're perfectly welcome to point out any basterd trying to damage the 2nd Amendment.

Thank you.......

 

[Caveman Jim]

This exactly the infighting we don't need for the 2A cause but it sure has made my ignore list escalate tremendously due to all the part-time 2A supporters here....
Why not got to ifish with your attitudes.... Good day...

 

[The B]

I think I misinterpreted the statement, hence my "what gives" comment.

Joe, correct me if I'm wrong on any of these points:

Pointing out damage a specific group is doing - totally OK.
Pointing out damage a specific person is doing - totally OK.
Pointing out damage a specific piece of legislation is, could, has, or might do - perfectly OK.
Ignorantly generalizing anyone not belonging to your approved political parties - NOT OK.
Alienating those who can help your cause because they disagree with you on unrelated topics - NOT OK.
Drawing an arbitrary line in the sand of politics and expecting everyone else to pick a side - NOT OK.

This is a gun board. It's not a taxes, healthcare, abortion, immigration, religion, political ideology, conservative, liberal, Republican, Democrat, capitalist, communist, whatever whatever board. Little-minded people think they can pigeonhole everyone into neat little generalizations, and they can't. It's incorrect. It makes you wrong. This isn't about being PC, it's about you being fricken ignorant and alienating people who could be strong allies to your cause. And not making the board look returded in the process.

 

[The B]

This exactly the infighting we don't need for the 2A cause but it sure has made my ignore list escalate tremendously due to all the part-time 2A supporters here....
Why not got to ifish with your attitudes.... Good day...

Are you ACTUALLY seeing fake 2A supporters on this board? I think I can count on one hand the number of members I've actually seen claim to be 2A supporters and then prove not to be. I just don't see this happening here, but I certainly don't read every thread.

 

[Joe Link]

I think I misinterpreted the statement, hence my "what gives" comment.

Joe, correct me if I'm wrong on any of these points:

Pointing out damage a specific group is doing - totally OK.
Pointing out damage a specific person is doing - totally OK.
Pointing out damage a specific piece of legislation is, could, has, or might do - perfectly OK.
Ignorantly generalizing anyone not belonging to your approved political parties - NOT OK.
Alienating those who can help your cause because they disagree with you on unrelated topics - NOT OK.
Drawing an arbitrary line in the sand of politics and expecting everyone else to pick a side - NOT OK.

This is a gun board. It's not a taxes, healthcare, abortion, immigration, religion, political ideology, conservative, liberal, Republican, Democrat, capitalist, communist, whatever whatever board. Little-minded people think they can pigeonhole everyone into neat little generalizations, and they can't. It's incorrect. It makes you wrong. This isn't about being PC, it's about you being fricken ignorant and alienating people who could be strong allies to your cause. And not making the board look returded in the process.

This is 100% correct.

 

[Sodbuster]

Careful -- Joey could turn you all into SCOTSMEN!!!!

 

[Sodbuster]

Sorry but with the incredibly unbelievable charges, I just could not resist.

 

[U201491]

With all the finger pointing and back slappin' going on here, looks like that email accomplished exactly what it was intended to do, "someone" is really trying to stir the crap, and discredit a certain web site, or cause discord between 2nd amendment supporters on both sites, and I'll tell you what, who ever sent this email ain't nothing but a snibbling coward.....

Chee-to you hit it square on.
WCFA Is concerned with the root cause of why we are forced to engage in defending the 2nd Amendment year after year and we feel that unless the things that lead to that are also changed, the 2nd amendment battle will eventually be lost.
We cannot allow that.
There is far more to repair in this country that is "not gun related" as the nwfa site restricts it to. We engage everything from, education, politics and overall corruption of the entire process from people with socialist, marxist, communist, globalist beliefs that damage the foundation of our country. We cannot and will not be restricted to gun related discussions only. The roots of this battle run deep. Without correcting those issues, there is no win for the 2nd amendment ! The reason WCFA is a closed group is so we can accomplish our goals in a straight forward route without ANY sideways or rearward push as did happen here. It is simply an association of very like minded people going in one straight direction without diversion.
Non right minded people that do not share that goal dont fit into that agenda. They fit in other forums, but not there.
All the whining, complaining, moping, name and labeling, wont get them there, but as is shown they will continue with that, no matter what. That mentality is what is restricted from the work site.
The disruptors that initiated this achieved their goal here, but everyone around them are losing. Take a long hard look at who is doing this, and you might want to think about cleaning this house as well of those that constantly attack anything remotely right of center. Until that is fixed the bickering here will go on forever. We do not tolerate that at WCFA. We feel we have a serious problem to address in defense of our Constitution and specifically the 2nd Amendment.
We dont view it as a secondary endeavor in our lives. Lives dont mean much without a strong root system, and the Constitution is that root system for us.

 

[The B]

Chee-to you hit it square on.
WCFA Is concerned with the root cause of why we are forced to engage in defending the 2nd Amendment year after year and we feel that unless the things that lead to that are also changed, the 2nd amendment battle will eventually be lost.
We cannot allow that.
There is far more to repair in this country that is "not gun related" as the nwfa site restricts it to. We engage everything from, education, politics and overall corruption of the entire process from people with socialist, marxist, communist, globalist beliefs that damage the foundation of our country. We cannot and will not be restricted to gun related discussions only. The roots of this battle run deep. Without correcting those issues, there is no win for the 2nd amendment ! The reason WCFA is a closed group is so we can accomplish our goals in a straight forward route without ANY sideways or rearward push as did happen here. It is simply an association of very like minded people going in one straight direction without diversion.
Non right minded people that do not share that goal dont fit into that agenda. They fit in other forums, but not there.
All the whining, complaining, moping, name and labeling, wont get them there, but as is shown they will continue with that, no matter what. That mentality is what is restricted from the work site.
The disruptors that initiated this achieved their goal here, but everyone around them are losing. Take a long hard look at who is doing this, and you might want to think about cleaning this house as well of those that constantly attack anything remotely right of center. Until that is fixed the bickering here will go on forever. We do not tolerate that at WCFA. We feel we have a serious problem to address in defense of our Constitution and specifically the 2nd Amendment.
We dont view it as a secondary endeavor in our lives. Lives dont mean much without a strong root system, and the Constitution is that root system for us.

All 32 of you.

 

[U201491]

All 32 of you.

That is 143 to date and climbing every day and not even propagated to date.
See you cannot resist an opportunity to continue stirring and belittling.
You are one of the types that I mention. I truly wish people here will eventually see your goals and the damage you do.
Another prime example why WCFA was established.
Sincere thanks for providing yourself as a prime example.

 

[slimmer13]

why WCFA was established.

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[U201491]

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Another prime example.

 

[Tbucket]

I was really thinking about checking this WCFA site out but after the few posts I have seen here that is not going to happen. Hope it all works out for you guys. I agree with a lot of what you are saying, just not the way you are going about it.

 

[Trailboss]

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Wow, Mods, this post is not considered offensive?

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[slimmer13]

I just thought it meant the stroking of......egos?