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I wonder if this is all going to end with their eyes and tongues melting, as their flesh is consumed right where they stand.... ;)

Yes it does look like Hal Lindsey was a bit off on who the Anti-Christ turns out to be but if one follows Nostradamus the Aunti-Christ wears a blue turban/hat or was that a white turban?
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It is in our DNA to be patriotic no matter what. To justify a lot of things via whatever belief system we have been assigned via our geographic birth lottery. But even the most programmed and deluded among us are starting to scratch their heads at the horrible things 'we' do. It sinks in a bit that we really are not heroes, that we are not wearing the white hats, that perhaps we are actually the bad people in the game of us vs them. Could be possible, who knows?
 
Yes it does look like Hal Lindsey was a bit off on who the Anti-Christ turns out to be but if one follows Nostradamus the Aunti-Christ wears a blue turban/hat or was that a white turban?
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Im not following the reference to the anit christ in this post.


Im no political genius but when "we" the american government has started fake wars for DECADES. It makes it pretty easy to understand why most of the world hates us. This maybe just my opinion but with the research ive done most "terrorists" cant afford to rent a camel to get to church. So for us to start wars in the name of protecting america is complete BS. The only weapons most terrorists have are the weapons we gave them to kill another group that we hated just a little bit more. These freedom fighters are the same people we fought in Iraq. To me that seems to make plenty of sense. Kill them in one country and arm them in another.

In closing of this post I just wanted to say hi to the NSA and any private contractor who gets to read this. :s0046:
 
At the risk of sounding like a huge lefty... This really isn't our fight, if you want to create a stable form of government anywhere you need to let the people earn it. It's a messy process that we had to go through when we broke away from britain, it took two major revisions (articles of confederation, the constitution) but we managed to get it mostly right and created a system that has for the bulk of it's history provided a stable rule.

The narrative we hear from the media about the "arab spring" and how they "want democracy" is all fluff, these are a bunch of tribals out to settle old scores and try to redraw the map. I don't think any of these people know what democracy is, it's like a 5 year old screaming for an iphone. As soon as they get it, they're going to vote in a new set of autocrats to take the place of the old ones. Who they will try to throw out in the next generation and the calls for america to help out will come again.

Democracy does not make a people prosperous, democracy allows a people to be prosperous.
 
Democracy does not make a people prosperous, democracy allows a people to be prosperous.

We don't care about 'spreading Democracy.' Or freeing any people from a dictator or any other such nonsense.

We are a dying Clandestine Empire lashing out for power and resources + targeting any country who threatens the Petro Dollar Ponzi. If Iran, Lybia, or Iran were allowed to trade in a currency other than the dollar our house of cards would collapse and we'd all be living in cardboard boxes and clubbing rats for dinner.

Don't be fooled into thinking that our marauding around the globe has a humanitarian purpose. All about power and control. Doing the bidding of the power elite central bankers. Millions of women and children dead, who cares, as long as we protect our status quo.
 
At the risk of sounding like a huge lefty... This really isn't our fight, if you want to create a stable form of government anywhere you need to let the people earn it. It's a messy process that we had to go through when we broke away from britain, it took two major revisions (articles of confederation, the constitution) but we managed to get it mostly right and created a system that has for the bulk of it's history provided a stable rule.

The narrative we hear from the media about the "arab spring" and how they "want democracy" is all fluff, these are a bunch of tribals out to settle old scores and try to redraw the map. I don't think any of these people know what democracy is, it's like a 5 year old screaming for an iphone. As soon as they get it, they're going to vote in a new set of autocrats to take the place of the old ones. Who they will try to throw out in the next generation and the calls for america to help out will come again.

Democracy does not make a people prosperous, democracy allows a people to be prosperous.

How does any of this make you sound like a leftie? You sound like a very sane, rational libertarian/conservative to me.

Keith
 
I am a righty, and this is NOT our fight. This is too little too late and if anything it should be handled by the blue hats and the Arab League. Or we just figure out where Assad is and put a JDAM on his front porch. We missed Qaddafi by one mil.... and he behaved himself for almost 25 years. The only good news is all those Iranians that will be going home in Lebanese cedar boxes. Oh yeah, the hell with that ex KGB Col. Putin.... Lets send the rebels the guns from the buybacks or all those caught in drug raids.

Brutus Out
 
From RT.com. Note that the same rebels are backed by Al-Qaeda. Also note that Russia is backing the Syrian government.

How screwed up is it that we profess a war on terror and yet are indirectly aligning with Al-Qaeda?

Let's hope that the war machine isn't taking us into a larger conflict...

Congress approves plan to arm Syrian rebels &#8211; US State Department

The Obama administration has received congressional approval to allow arms supplies to Free Syrian Army rebels, Department of State spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters. The statement was made in response to media reports that the House and Senate Intelligence Committees gave a green light to arm the Syrian opposition. Psaki did not give specific details on the approved plan or say when the supplies would begin. The Obama administration's plan to supply small arms and ammunition to rebels was originally announced last month.
 
[h=1]Russia: Al-Qaeda-linked extremists hold 200 Kurdish civilians hostage as ‘live shield’ in Syria[/h]

Published time: July 23, 2013 15:34
Edited time: July 23, 2013 19:50
al-qaeda-civilians-hostage-syria.si.jpg A general view of the northern Syrian town of Ras al-Ain (Reuters/Amr Abdallah Dalsh)








Al-Qaeda-linked extremists have taken and continue to hold hostage about 200 Kurdish civilians, including women and children, using them as live shields in north-eastern Syria, Russia’s Foreign Ministry has stated.
Civilians remain hostage after Syrian Kurds clashed with Al-Qaeda linked militants in the north-eastern Syrian towns of Tal Abyad and Ras al-Ain, along the Syrian-Turkish border over the weekend.

"In these areas, there has long been confrontation between the troops of the international extremists affiliated with al-Qaeda and local Kurdish militias who stood up to protect their homes from attacks by radical Islamists," Russia’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement published on its website.

Syrian Kurd fighters captured a rebel leader, or emir, identified as Abu Musab. In response, Al-Qaeda extremists abducted 500 civilians, including woman and children.
“They started to kill innocent people by cutting off their heads,” the statement read. “Kurds had to free Abu Musab in exchange for an agreement to release hostages.”

Despite the Kurdish fighters agreed to release Abu Musab in exchange for people, about 200 people are still in the hands of extremists. The commander was freed as agreed.
The Kurdish gunmen have been fighting to expel al-Qaeda militants from the northeastern province of Hassakeh over the past week, with the battle significantly intensifying over the weekend.

The clashes between the Kurdish People’s Defense Units (YPG) and the al-Qaeda-affiliated Jahbat al-Nusra erupted in the city of Ras al-Ain in the northern province of Hasakeh on July 16, when at least four militants were killed.

The Kurds issued a “victory message,” celebrating the “liberation” of Ras al-Ain, claiming to hold control over the entire city as well as the headquarters of the Islamist combatant groups there.
On Saturday evening, the fighting spread to the city of Tal Abyad.
"Moscow strongly condemns the atrocities of international terrorists in northeastern Syria and the excesses and abuses perpetrated by extremists against a peaceful Kurdish population which is not involved in the ongoing political and military conflict in Syria," the Ministry said.
The city of Ras al-Ain is home to some 50,000 people including a mix of Kurds, Arabs, Christians, and Yezidis – a Kurdish religious minority.

London-based RT contributor Afshin Rattansi says Western powers supporting organizations like al-Qaeda-linked Jahbat al-Nusra are to be blamed for the situation in northern Syria.

“There has been a discrimination of Kurds in that region, but now we have a situation where the United States, Saudi Arabia, and Britain are actively supporting al-Qaeda-linked organizations that are ransacking and murdering women and children - certainly over the past 48 hours,”
he said. “All we are hearing from London and Washington are talks about a no-fly zone and arming the very people who are killing women and children there. And from Turkey, certainly the Turkish right wing has brought ideas of invading Syria from the north to kill more Kurdish people.”

Rattansi says the UN Security Council (UNSC) should look closely at the situation there.
“Russia and China should bring this up at the UNSC. Otherwise, the prospect for these 200 hostages is pretty grim,” he said.
 
[h=1]Catholic Priest Allegedly Beheaded in Syria by Al-Qaeda-Linked Rebels as Men and Children Take Pictures and Cheer[/h] Jun. 30, 2013 7:37am Sharona Schwartz


Syrian Catholic priest Francois Murad killed last weekend by jihadi fighters was beheaded, according to a <broken link removed> by Catholic Online which is linking to video purportedly showing the brutal murder.
As TheBlaze reported last week, Murad, 49, was setting up a monastery in Gassanieh, northern Syria. Last Sunday, on the Christian leader's Sabbath, extremist militants trying to topple President Bashar Assad <broken link removed> and grabbed Murad.
While earlier reports suggested Murad may have been shot to death, Catholic Online reported Saturday: "The Vatican is confirming the death by beheading of Franciscan Father, Francois Murad, who was martyred by Syrian jihadists on June 23."
Syria-Catholic-Priest-Francois-Murad.jpg Syrian Catholic priest Francois Murad (Photo courtesy: Syria Report)

The Catholic news service quotes local sources who report that the radical Al-Qaeda-linked Jabhat al-Nusra, or Al-Nusra Front, was behind the savage killing.
In video posted by Live Leak purporting to show the execution, dozens of men and boys are seen cheering on as three men are seated on the ground awaiting their grisly fate.
The men are methodically beheaded one at a time by men holding what appears to be a simple kitchen knife after which the heads are placed on top of the bodies.
According to Catholic Online, the first victim was Murad.
A frenzy ensues, with dozens drawing out their smartphones to capture the bloody scene, as a chorus of Allahu Akbar ("Allah is the greatest") are sung with jihadi rapture. Several observers are seen moving within inches of the bodies in an effort to capture close-up photos.
Syria-Priest-Beaheding-2.jpg Men are poised with cameras waiting to capture photos of beheading scene in Syria, as frenzied shouts of Allahu Akbar are heard (Screenshot: Live Leak)

Catholic Online is <broken link removed> that western nations are providing support to the rebels who have shown a proclivity toward persecuting Christians:
This should make it clear to Christians around the world what jihadists are about. Make no mistake. Catholics and [other] Christians around the globe are under dire threat, particularly from the spread of militant Islam. Until the threat is recognized and taken seriously, martyrdoms like this will continue.
Vatican Radio reports that Gassanieh, a village with a majority Christian population, had been under attack by Islamist fighters for the past few weeks, forcing most residents to flee for safety.
It quotes Custos of the Holy Land, Franciscan Fr. Pierbattista Pizzaballa who says, "Unfortunately Syria has now become a battleground not only between Syrian forces, but also between Arab countries and the international community. And those paying the price are the poor, the young and the Christians. That the international community must put a stop to all this".
Pizzaballa <broken link removed> , "The world must know that the support of gunmen by the west is helping extremists in killing Syrians.
"With such stances, not a single Christian will remain in the East," he added.
Vatican Radio writes, "Fr. Mourad was just one of the many men and women religious putting their faith on the front line in Syria, refusing to abandon the communities they serve, Christian and Muslim. They stay because they want to be a sign of hope, light and comfort to people in the midst of destruction."
TheBlaze chose not to post the video purporting to show Father Murad's murder. It can be viewed here, but please be warned it is extremely graphic and disturbing.
 

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