Iran Sends Troops To Syria, Egypt Cuts Diplomatic Ties to Same (That Is All)

[erudne]

Lying About Syria, and the Lying Liars Who Lie About the Lying | The Daily Sheeple

Yeah, well, 10 years ago when the Dems were not controlled by Satan and a Demoncrat did not control Wash DC, which is now looking more like Vegas than the embodiment of the US Constitution, having a conversation about 'right' vs. 'wrong' conduct would have had meaning, laws might have even been enforced, folks taken to task. Today America does not exist inside the Beltway.
But fer Lawd's sake, don't "Hoard Ammo"!

 

[Stomper]

But fer Lawd's sake, don't "Hoard Ammo"!

OK, that right there is where you lost me.... The beating will commence!!

 

[Burt Gummer]

Another zionist war? How much more are you people going to take before you fight back?

The people have no way to do that; 'we the people' died long ago. There is no way for people beneath an Oligarchy to fight back. Especially when they are so deluded they believe they are in a democracy/republic where a president is making important decisions.

All the frustration and anger is directed toward the current puppet, as is his function.

America is simply a billy club for foreign interests.

When that purpose has expired, we will be discarded. For now, our only exports of war and death will give the Oligarchs a reason not to pull the plug on us yet, to let our fake debt bubble and status quo continue. That is all Americans really want at this point. Tomorrow to be like today.

If a few more million brown people have to be murdered for that to happen, so be it. We are buying time as murderers for hire only.

 

[Riot]

The people have no way to do that; 'we the people' died long ago. There is no way for people beneath an Oligarchy to fight back. Especially when they are so deluded they believe they are in a democracy/republic where a president is making important decisions.

All the frustration and anger is directed toward the current puppet, as is his function.

America is simply a billy club for foreign interests.

When that purpose has expired, we will be discarded. For now, our only exports of war and death will give the Oligarchs a reason not to pull the plug on us yet, to let our fake debt bubble and status quo continue. That is all Americans really want at this point. Tomorrow to be like today.

If a few more million brown people have to be murdered for that to happen, so be it. We are buying time as murderers for hire only.

Syria is like a wild dog....biting at anyone nearby. The dog needs to be put down, I just don't understand why we have to do it or what it has anything to do with us what-so-ever. Of all the countries doing bad things to people (Christian murders in Egypt, ethnic cleansing in Africa, drug cartels in Mexico, etc.) what the heck does Syrians killing Syrians have anything to do with us?

We prop up the government we want propped up...don't know what the end goal is, but I doubt it's in the best interest of Syria.

 

[erudne]

The Minions of Obama are screaming for war "In Days" against Syria's Assad.
This is a total False Flag attack as a means to impose a Caliphate upon the Middle East.
Iran and Russia are backing Assad, Israel will be forced to defend itself and a regional war is almost assured.
Top Off your supplies now

 

[Stomper]

Syria is like a wild dog....biting at anyone nearby. The dog needs to be put down, I just don't understand why we have to do it or what it has anything to do with us what-so-ever. Of all the countries doing bad things to people (Christian murders in Egypt, ethnic cleansing in Africa, drug cartels in Mexico, etc.) what the heck does Syrians killing Syrians have anything to do with us?

We prop up the government we want propped up...don't know what the end goal is, but I doubt it's in the best interest of Syria.

I think Burt was on to something about spanking out the current regime in order to bring them into line under the "international banking" scheme.

 

[cookie]

It is in our DNA to be patriotic no matter what. To justify a lot of things via whatever belief system we have been assigned via our geographic birth lottery. But even the most programmed and deluded among us are starting to scratch their heads at the horrible things 'we' do. It sinks in a bit that we really are not heroes, that we are not wearing the white hats, that perhaps we are actually the bad people in the game of us vs them. Could be possible, who knows?

I think about things. I may not be patriotic.

 

[erudne]

1. In 1968 , Bobby Kennedy was shot and
killed by a Muslim male.

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes
were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim males.

3. In 1972 a Pan Am 747 was hijacked and eventually
diverted to Cairo where a fuse was lit on final approach and it
was blown up shortly after landing by Muslim males.

4. In 1973 a Pan Am 707 was destroyed in Rome , with 33
people killed, when it was attacked with grenades by Muslim males.

5. In 1979 , the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim males.

6. During the 1980's a number of Americans were
kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.

7. In 1983 , the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown
up by Muslim males

8. In 1985 , the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked
and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and
thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim males.

9. In 1985 , TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and
a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was
murdered by Muslim males.

10. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim males.

11. In 1993 , the World Trade Center was bombed the
first time by Muslim males.

12. In 1998 , the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania
were bombed by Muslim males.

13. On 9/11/01 , four airliners were hijacked; two were
used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the
remaining two,one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was
diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were
killed by Muslim males.

14. In 2002 , the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim males.

15. In 2002 , reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped
and beheaded by---you guessed it was --- Muslim males.

No, I don't think of Americans as bad guys, mis-led by Sociopaths in the WH maybe but not bad guys in the terms some would use

 

[U201491]

The U.S. channels Chemical Weapons to Al Qaeda in Syria


Saturday, August 24, 2013 9:49

Who has Crossed the “Red Line”? Barack Obama and John Kerry are Supporting a Terrorist Organization on the State Department List.
Is president Obama setting the stage for a “humanitarian intervention” by casually accusing the Syrian president of killing his own people?
“Following a deliberative review, our intelligence community assesses that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons, including the nerve agent sarin, on a small scale against the opposition multiple times in the last year,”

White House Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes said in a statement. “Our intelligence community has high confidence in that assessment given multiple, independent streams of information.”
“Obama has give notice to President Bashar Al Assad of ‘enormous consequences’ for having crossed the ‘red line’” by allegedly using chemical weapons.
Money and Weapons for Al Qaeda
A WMD saga modeled on Iraq based on fabricated evidence is unfolding. The Western media in chorus relentlessly accuse the Syrian government of premeditated mass-murder, calling upon the “international community” to come to the rescue of the Syrian people.
“Syria crosses ‘red line’ on chemical weapons. How will Obama respond?”
The Syrian “opposition” is calling upon the US and its allies to implement “a no fly zone”.
In turn, the White House has acknowledged that the red line “has been crossed”, while emphasizing that the US and its allies will “increase the scope and scale of assistance” to the rebels.
The chemical weapons pretext is being used to justify further military aid to the rebels, which in large part have been decimated by Syrian government forces.
These defeated opposition rebel forces –largely composed of the Al Qaeda affiliated Al Nusrah– are supported by Turkey, Israel, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
US-NATO-Israel have lost the ground war. Their Al Nusrah Front fighters, which constitute the foot-soldiers of the Western military alliance, cannot, under any circumstances, be rapidly rebuilt through a renewed flow of US-NATO military aid.
The Obama administration is in an impasse: its foot soldiers have been defeated. A “no fly zone” would, at this stage, be a risky proposition given Syria’s air defense system, which includes the Russian S-300 SAM system.
US-NATO Are Training “Opposition” Rebels in the Use of Chemical Weapons
The chemical weapons accusations are fabricated. In a bitter irony, the evidence amply confirms that the chemical weapons are being used not by Syrian government forces but by the US supported Al Qaeda rebels.
In a twisted logic whereby realities are turned upside down, the Syrian government is being accused of the atrocities committed by the US sponsored Al Qaeda affiliated rebels.
The Western media is feeding disinformation into the news chain, casually refuting its own news reports. Confirmed by various sources including CNN, the Western military alliance has not only made chemical weapons available to the Al Nusrah Front, it has also sent in military contractors and special forces to train the rebels:

The training [in chemical weapons], which is taking place in Jordan and Turkey, involves how to monitor and secure stockpiles and handle weapons sites and materials, according to the sources. Some of the contractors are on the ground in Syria working with the rebels to monitor some of the sites, according to one of the officials.
The nationality of the trainers was not disclosed, though the officials cautioned against assuming all are American. (CNN, December 09, 2012, emphasis added
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While the news report does not confirm the identity of the defense contractors, the official statements suggest a close contractual relationship to the Pentagon:

The US decision to hire unaccountable defense contractors to train Syrian rebels to handle stockpiles of chemical weapons seems dangerously irresponsible in the extreme, especially considering how inept Washington has so far been at making sure only trustworthy, secular rebels – to the extent they exist – receive their aid and the weapons that allies in the Gulf Arab states have been providing.
It also feeds accusations that the Syrian Foreign Ministry recently made that the US is working to frame the Syrian regime as having used or prepared for chemical warfare.
“What raises concerns about this news circulated by the media is our serious fear that some of the countries backing terrorism and terrorists might provide the armed terrorist groups with chemical weapons and claim that it was the Syrian government that used the weapons,” the letters said.”( John Glaser, Us Defense Contractors Training Syrian Rebels, Antiwar.com, December 10, 2012, emphasis added)
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Lets be under no illusion. This is not a rebel training exercise in non-proliferation of chemical weapons.
While president Obama accuses Bashar Al Assad, the US-NATO military alliance is channeling chemical weapons to Al Nusrah, a terrorist organization on the State Department blacklist.
In all likelihood, the training of Al Nusrah rebels in the use of chemical weapons was undertaken by private military contractors.
The United Nations Independent Mission confirms that Rebel Forces Are in Possession of Sarin Nerve Gas
While Washington points its finger at president Bashar al Assad, a United Nations independent commission of inquiry confirmed in May 2013 that the rebels rather than the government have chemical weapons in their possession and are using sarin nerve against the civilian population:
U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria’s civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday.
The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte. [see image right]
“Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated,” Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.
“This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities,” she added, speaking in Italian. (“U.N. has testimony that Syrian rebels used sarin gas: investigator,” Chicago Tribune, May, 5 2013, emphasis added)
Turkish Police Report: US Supported Al Nusrah Terrorists Possess Chemical Weapons

According to Turkey’s state media agency Zaman, the Turkish General Directorate of Security (Emniyet Genel Müdürlüğü):

[Police have] ceased 2 kg of sarin gas in the city of Adana in the early hours of yesterday morning. The chemical weapons were in the possession of Al Nusra terrorists believed to have been heading for Syria.
Sarin gas is a colourless, odorless substance which is extremely difficult to detect. The gas is banned under the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention.
The EGM [Turkish Police] identified 12 members of the AL Nusra terrorist cell and also ceased fire arms and digital equipment. This is the second major official confirmation of the use of chemical weapons by Al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria after UN inspector Carla Del Ponte’s recent statement confirming the use of chemical weapons by the Western-backed terrorists in Syria.
The Turkish police are currently conducting further investigations into the operations of Al-Qaeda linked groups in Turkey. (For further details see Gearóid Ó Colmáin, Turkish Police find Chemical Weapons in the Possession of Al Nusra Terrorists heading for Syria, Global Research.ca, May 30, 2013)
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Who has Crossed the “Red Line”? Barack Obama and John Kerry are Supporting a Terrorist Organization on the State Department List
What is unfolding is a diabolical scenario –which is an integral part of US military planning– namely a situation where opposition terrorists of the al Nusrah Front advised by Western defense contractors are actually in possession of chemical weapons.
The West claims that it is coming to the rescue of the Syrian people, whose lives are allegedly threatened by Bashar Al Assad.
Obama has not only “Crossed the Red Line”, he is supporting Al Qaeda. He is a Liar and a Terrorist.
The forbidden truth, which the Western media has failed to reveal, is that the US-NATO- Israel military alliance is not only supporting the Al Nusrah Front, it is also making chemical weapons available to its proxy “opposition” rebel forces.
The broader issue is: Who is a threat to the Syrian people? Syria’s President Bashar al Assad or America’s President Barack Obama, who has ordered the recruitment and training of terrorist forces which are on the US State Department blacklist.
In a bitter irony, according to the US State Department Bureau of Counter-terrorism, President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry, not to mention Senator John McCain could be held responsible for “knowingly providing, or attempting or conspiring to provide, material support or resources to, or engaging in transactions with, al-Nusrah Front”:

The Department of State has amended the Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) and Executive Order (E.O.) 13224 designations of al-Qa’ida in Iraq (AQI) to include the following new aliases: al-Nusrah Front, Jabhat al-Nusrah, Jabhet al-Nusra, The Victory Front, and Al-Nusrah Front for the People of the Levant. The consequences of adding al-Nusrah Front as a new alias for AQI include a prohibition against knowingly providing, or attempting or conspiring to provide, material support or resources to, or engaging in transactions with, al-Nusrah Front, and the freezing of all property and interests in property of the organization that are in the United States, or come within the United States or the control of U.S. persons. (emphasis added)
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The State Department advisory acknowledges that from November 2011 to December 2012:

“Al-Nusrah Front has claimed nearly 600 attacks – ranging from more than 40 suicide attacks to small arms and improvised explosive device operations – in major city centers including Damascus, Aleppo, Hamah, Dara, Homs, Idlib, and Dayr al-Zawr. During these attacks numerous innocent Syrians have been killed. ….
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The advisory also confirms that “the United States takes this action [of blacklisting the Al Nusrah Front] in the context of our overall support for the Syrian people. … ”
What it fails to mention is that the Obama administration continues to channel money and weapons to Al Nusrah in blatant defiance of US counter-terrorism legislation.
Washington’s “Go-Between”: General Salem Idriss
Washington’s “Go Between” is the Head of the FSA Supreme Military Council Brigadier General Salem Idriss

, who is permanent liaison with the Al Nusrah military commanders.
Secretary of State John Kerry meets representatives of the Syrian opposition. US officials meet with General Idriss. The latter, acting on behalf of the Pentagon, channels money and weapons to the terrorists. This model of supporting Al Nusra is similar to that implemented in Afghanistan in the 1980s whereby the Pakistani military government of General Zia Ul Haq would funnel weapons to jihadist “Freedom Fighters” in the heyday of the Soviet-Afghan war.
US support to terrorists is always sent through a trusted intermediary. According to an Obama administration official: “While the United States may have leverage with General Idris, it has no ability to control some jihadists — like the Nusra Front, which is also fighting Syrian government forces.” (New York Times, May 23, 2013)
John McCain Enters Syria, Mingles with US Sponsored Terrorists
Meanwhile, Senator John McCain “entered Syria [early June] from the country’s border with Turkey and stayed there for several hours … McCain met with assembled leaders of Free Syrian Army units in both Turkey and Syria.” See image below John McCain together with General Salem Idriss)
The Contradictory Role of the United Nations Security Council
In late May 2013, the UN Security Council added Al Nusrah to the UNSC “Al-Qaida Sanctions List.” Yet at the same time, the Security Council decision casually dismissed the fact, amply documented, that three permanent members of the Council, namely Britain, France and the US continue to provide military aid to the Jabbat Al Nusrah Front, in defiance of international law and the UN Charter.
See annex information here.
‘Obama Overtly supports Al-Qaeda, Provides Terrorists with Chemical Weapons’
In the midst of pre-Geneva II talks on Syria Professor Michel Chossudovsky, Director of the Centre for Research on Globalization and Professor Emeritus at the University of Ottawa tells the Voice of Russia about the controversial role the Obama administration plays in the Syrian conflict and the possibility that the US Head of State not only cooperates with Al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations but also supplies them with chemical weapons.
In one of your recent articles you suggested that the chemical weapons accusations in Syria are fabricated. You said that “in a bitter irony, the evidence amply confirms that the chemical weapons are being used not by Syrian government forces but by the US supported Al Qaeda rebels.” Can you elaborate on this issue?
If we look at various media reports, including CNN but it is also acknowledged in Israeli media, the rebels namely Al-Nusra are in possession of chemical weapons but moreover it is acknowledged that western forces are actually training Al-Nusra rebels in Jordan and Turkey and this is confirmed by a December 9 CNN report.
We had subsequently the report of the United Nations independent mission which confirms that rebel forces are in possession of sarin nerve gas and the United Nations human rights investigators actually made a statement to that effect and refuted the accusations that government forces were in possession of chemical weapons.
In fact what they said is that the rebels were in possession of chemical weapons.
Then we also had a Turkish police report, which essentially confirmed these previous reports, the fact that the Al-Nusra terrorists who are supported by the Western military alliance, they were arrested with sarin gas in their possession.
Regarding the issue of chemical weapons in Syria you have also said that “Obama has not only “Crossed the Red Line”, he is supporting Al Qaeda. He is a Liar and a Terrorist.” Other than the provision of chemical weapons to Syrian opposition, is there any other evidence to support the claim that Obama might be supporting Al-Qaeda?
I think that we are beyond the issue as to whether Obama is supporting Al-Qaeda. John Kerry is directly in contacts with commanders, which are in link with Al-Qaeda rebels. We’ve got a fairly large documentation to the effect that weapons and money are being channeled to the rebels and that these rebels actually are on the US state department list of terrorist organizations.
So, what I am saying essentially is that these Al-Qaeda affiliated organizations are not longer supported covertly by the CIA, they are supported overtly by the US president and the Secretary of State who is in touch with commanders of that terrorist force, in particular the main intermediary is a General Idriss who is with the Free Syrian Army and who is in constant contact with the rebels.
But what I think we should understand is that Obama administration and its allies are harboring a terrorist organization which is on the state department list and that means that president Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry could under the US law be held responsible: And I quote the document of the state department “knowingly providing or attempting or conspiring to provide material support or resources to or engaging in transactions with Al-Nusra front”
so that essentially what I am contending is that Obama is in violation of the Patriot Act, he is in violation of US anti-terrorist legislation and in fact the US government is in blatant violation of its own counter-terrorism legislation while waging a so-called war on terrorism.
You can’t wage a war on terrorism and then provide support to the terrorists.​

What is the web address for this one?​

 

[Riot]

I think Burt was on to something about spanking out the current regime in order to bring them into line under the "international banking" scheme.

I know...I was kind of agreeing with him in the sense that I don't see a point in getting involved with Syria's problems, but I have no love lost either way if a couple cruise missles are sent their way. I just really don't see how arming rebels is in our best interest at all...arming and training the Taliban got us in a world of poop, now we're repeating the cycle? Why? Does every freekin politician have stock in KBR?

Seriously, I swear it's just to line pockets from DoD war funds for civilian contracts. War torn areas are "the thing" now. Everyone is all about Anti-Terrorism training, VIP security and contract work in restabalization (builing roads, schools, and ensuring clean water). It's sounds nobel enough, but there's a lot of money to be had by de-stabalizing and restabilizing a country.

We loose more rights each day to the militarization of our police force all in the name of "safety and security".

The truth is that is all about the money.

 

[erudne]

It all boils down to the American PPL having been dumbed down to the point that they have no historical perspective, they have ben told that all 'revolutions' are the same and they all end in "Democracy"; they have no knowledge of how unique the American Revolution was or that it was based on Christian precepts. They have no idea that the French Revolution was supposed to be a copy of the American Revolution but because the leaders were Bohemians, Anarchists and Heathens it rapidly turned into a national orgy of pillage, murder and rape which gave rise to the Tyrant Napoleon.

 

[Brutus57]

Like I said previously, there is no reason for us to get involved now. 50,000 lives ago, MAYBE and that's a big maybe. The Middle East is in worse condition than it was when Egypt, Syria and others went to war against Israel in 1973. But Obama HAS to do something, he said he would if the red line was crossed... It's like he has a script to go down as the worse POTUS in history. Plus if we are all discussing a new war we aren't talking about the NSA, IRS, or Benghazi, much less a lousy economy.... but millions of Americans will continue defend his right to mediocrity. At least Nixon had enough guts left to step down.

Brutus Out

 

[Brutus57]

Make sure you check out all the pick up mounted heavy weapons being used by the rebels on the news clips like Fox! And those aren't even 3/4 ton rigs.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Brutus

 

[CoastRange57]

I think Palin hit the nail on the head, “Let Allah sort it out”.

And it is up to the Marine Corp to arrange that meeting.

 

[Brutus57]

And it is up to the Marine Corp to arrange that meeting.

At this point as long as they don't threaten Israel or our strategic oil transport let them continue to fight. Don't think its worth it to send MArines over there. Not when we could have grabbed some the Marines pulling security at Sigonella could have been sent to Benghazi in a couple of hours or so, definitely far less than 7 hours while Hillary sat on her big, wide arse.

Brutus Out

 

[rick benjamin]

How much more are you people going to take before you fight back?

About buzillion dollars tax free, then, fight's on!

And no Marines involved unless it's in our own best interest.

 

[CoastRange57]

About buzillion dollars tax free, then, fight's on!

And no Marines involved unless it's in our own best interest.

Yeah..I agree....that is just a Marine Corp thing. Boots on the ground would be a huge complex cluster f*** that the American people will not stand for. Probably just set ships and subs off the coast and lob cruise missiles at them.

Why risk much to save ?, enforce ? what ever.

 

[bellarum]

Biden should just go over there and shoot 2 shot gun blasts into the air. Pretty sure that would take care of it.

 

[Stomper]

I know...I was kind of agreeing with him in the sense that I don't see a point in getting involved with Syria's problems, but I have no love lost either way if a couple cruise missles are sent their way. I just really don't see how arming rebels is in our best interest at all...arming and training the Taliban got us in a world of poop, now we're repeating the cycle? Why? Does every freekin politician have stock in KBR?

Seriously, I swear it's just to line pockets from DoD war funds for civilian contracts. War torn areas are "the thing" now. Everyone is all about Anti-Terrorism training, VIP security and contract work in restabalization (builing roads, schools, and ensuring clean water). It's sounds nobel enough, but there's a lot of money to be had by de-stabalizing and restabilizing a country.

We loose more rights each day to the militarization of our police force all in the name of "safety and security".

The truth is that is all about the money.

BINGO... follow the money.


I served in our military (during some other bubblegumty times), I love my country intensely.... BUT I will not pick up a rifle for it again (nor will my sons) UNLESS there is a need to fight within our own borders... PERIOD.

 

[erudne]

BINGO... follow the money.


I served in our military (during some other bubblegumty times), I love my country intensely.... BUT I will not pick up a rifle for it again (nor will my sons) UNLESS there is a need to fight within our own borders... PERIOD.

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