In self-defense: Kirkland pit bull shooting

Dave Workman

Messages
3,359
Reactions
2,900
The weekend shooting of an aggressive pit bull at a Kirkland park appears to fall well within the guidelines of self-defense under this state’s statutes, and the incident has ignited a furious debate about dangerous dogs.
The case, according to Alan Gottlieb, executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation in Bellevue, underscores why his organization fought to nullify Seattle’s illegal parks gun ban.


<broken link removed>
 
Messages
97
Reactions
3
Wow this story isn't getting much press on other news sites, probably because of the burglary shootings this morning...

My wife and I were at that park Friday with our dogs... I would have done the same thing...

Thanks for posting this.
 
Messages
233
Reactions
88
dave i walk my dogs constantly at least once a day i have consistently run into aggressive gangbangers dogs on the beach without their owners it is a nuisance and at worst a hazard to life and limb........They always say the same thing hes not aggressive yet my dog is to other unaltered-males i have a large bully breed hes always on a leash . Now im trying to separate three large dogs in a knockdown drag out fight and have been bitten. i have had old women do the same thing he/she's sweet and the fight happens as they come up tail in the air unchained and its on.

when you take a dog off leash around people and other dogs you immediately open yourself up to anything that uncontrolled dog does civily and criminally
 
Messages
152
Reactions
18
I own a pitbull, love her to death, but if she was mauling someone elses dog, I failed as a owner and I wouldn't hold it against them to save their own dog. The problem is the owner, not the dogs. We need stricter animal laws as far as breeding and owning certain breeds.
 
Yeah, let's have an assault-dog ban, hencforth known as the "ADB"!! No full-auto dogs, no dog shall have more than 10 teeth, no dogs will have a pistol grip & shall have a fixed thumb hole stock (ick), no imported dogs (only parts kits are allowed), no dog shall have a noise/flash suppressor, no dog shall have a bayonet lug, no dogs under 16" in length... that ought to make things safer!!
 
Messages
505
Reactions
245
I own a pitbull, love her to death, but if she was mauling someone elses dog, I failed as a owner and I wouldn't hold it against them to save their own dog. The problem is the owner, not the dogs. We need stricter animal laws as far as breeding and owning certain breeds.

No you need to instill in society the notion that dog owners need to properly care for them and train their pets well. Its called responsibility. I love dogs but don't have the space nor desire to spend the proper amount of time to care and train one, thus I don't have one, besides the neighbor dogs who occasionally use my front lawn for a bathroom.
 
Messages
735
Reactions
104
Yeah, let's have an assault-dog ban, hencforth known as the "ADB"!! No full-auto dogs, no dog shall have more than 10 teeth, no dogs will have a pistol grip & shall have a fixed thumb hole stock (ick), no imported dogs (only parts kits are allowed), no dog shall have a noise/flash suppressor, no dog shall have a bayonet lug, no dogs under 16" in length... that ought to make things safer!!
Are muzzle shrouds ok though??
 
Messages
2,457
Reactions
693
We need stricter animal laws as far as breeding and owning certain breeds.
No, you don't. When you go that way of thinking you wind up not having, for example, Rottweilers, or may other breeds like many places in Calii have restricted. Marin County comes to mnd.

I will try try to stop dog fights using safe means, but when it comes to maulings or unprovoked attacks one or more dogs are being shot. Mine included!!!
 
Messages
1,405
Reactions
30
Yeah, let's have an assault-dog ban, hencforth known as the "ADB"!! No full-auto dogs, no dog shall have more than 10 teeth, no dogs will have a pistol grip & shall have a fixed thumb hole stock (ick), no imported dogs (only parts kits are allowed), no dog shall have a noise/flash suppressor, no dog shall have a bayonet lug, no dogs under 16" in length... that ought to make things safer!!
You can't compare dogs to inanimate objects, or tools, like firearms. Decades of breeding can be brought out by the smallest things. It's just not the same.
 
OP
Dave Workman

Dave Workman

Messages
3,359
Reactions
2,900
Dog attacks bring out the backlash; Crime down, gun sales up!

For the second time since Saturday, a man has been attacked by unleashed, aggressive dogs, the most recent attack happening in Kent.
In the aftermath, public reaction is not unlike that unleashed against firearms and their owners following a high-profile shooting.

<broken link removed>
 
Messages
11
Reactions
0
Yeah, let's have an assault-dog ban, hencforth known as the "ADB"!! No full-auto dogs, no dog shall have more than 10 teeth, no dogs will have a pistol grip & shall have a fixed thumb hole stock (ick), no imported dogs (only parts kits are allowed), no dog shall have a noise/flash suppressor, no dog shall have a bayonet lug, no dogs under 16" in length... that ought to make things safer!!
Haha, hilarious. Keep up the good work
 

ZigZagZeke

Messages
5,038
Reactions
11,636
There is a concept in the civil law called "strict liability". It says that when you are doing any of a number of specific activities (like blasting stumps) it doesn't matter what precautions you take or how careful you are being. Any damage done to others or their property as a result of your actions is automatically, 100% your fault, and you are financially responsible. Conversely, any actions taken by others to prevent that damage are automatically reasonable.

This concept of strict liability needs to be extended to any dog off a leash. As a hunting hound breeder I would be behind this kind of legislation 100%.
 
OP
Dave Workman

Dave Workman

Messages
3,359
Reactions
2,900
There's been ANOTHER pit bull shooting, this time in Everett, where the dog was loose and reportedly came at the shooter, and his daughter, in their yard.
Naturally, the story is being disputed by pit bull lovers, but we'll have to see how this all shakes out

<broken link removed>

It's rather a shame that certain dog breeds seem inherently dangerous, or at least have that reputation.

How many people here have had trouble with dogs?
 
Messages
574
Reactions
201
Oh Snap! Those dogs were just getting their lives together!
BTW: Any pit bull shoot is a good shoot.
lowlife, small penis, gangsta wannabe types seem to LOVE pit bulls. Draw your own conclusions
 

UPCOMING EVENTS

Cerberus Training Group - Skill Builder - Pistol/Rifle Combo
Cerberus Training Group
47 Cattle Dr, Goldendale, WA 98620, USA
Albany Rifle & Pistol Club (ARPC) Gun Show
Linn County Expo Center
3700 Knox Butte Rd E, Albany, OR 97322, USA
Cerberus Training Group - Skill Builder - Pistol/Rifle Combo
Cerberus Training Group
47 Cattle Dr, Goldendale, WA 98620, USA
Arms Collectors of SW Washington Gun Show
Battleground Community Center
912 E Main St, Battle Ground, WA 98604, USA

LATEST RESOURCE REVIEWS

  • J&B Firearm Sales
    5.00 star(s)
    Good local shop
    Picked up a rifle yesterday from J&B. This was the second or third gun purchase over the last few years from them. I always enjoy stopping by...
  • H&K Gun Shop
    5.00 star(s)
    The only place I have found 9mm in stock
    I’ll admit I didn’t even know this place existed, as I don’t tend to go into Forest Grove often. But it’s a giant (looks bigger from the...
  • Revelation Arms
    4.00 star(s)
    Depends who answers the phone
    I was given the number to Roger Loock by Beaver Creek Armory, as I needed parts I had ordered from MCarbo installed on a Kel-Tec Sub2000. On my...
  • Coastal Farm & Ranch - Cornelius
    3.00 star(s)
    Lesson learned
    I’ll take some responsibility here, as I took the employee at their word instead of doing a thorough inspection. Short story is that I asked for a...
  • MK Tactical
    5.00 star(s)
    Good guys!
    I stop in here every once in a while to see what Michael has in the clearance section, and to ask questions when I have a project in mind...
Top Bottom