Washington I-1639....

[fredball]

First of all, if it sticks. There has to be an efective date. I imagine eveything after that effective date will be in compliance with this BS. Second, I don't know yet if there is a grandfather clause in the bill. Third, they can not go door to door asking questions about what you own and how you store it. Fourth, will this stupid state now employ range Police. Asking you if the gun you brought to the range complies? Fifth, will those same range Police ask if you have paid your yearly fee for owning said firearm and have you paid and taken the "safe" gun handleing course to even own said firearm. (most of us have already had several decades of safe gun handling. Why do we need a class now?) Seventh, The NRA has already said they will take it to court. We will see what happens there? When stupid chit gets passed like this, I am glad I do not have a paper trail...........

@rdb241
Have you ever bought ammo gun cleaning kit, ect. with a credit card then yes you have a paper trail

 

[11Charlie]

Lets be real I think everyone on this forum has a paper trail.

 

[Geardo]

There's nothing like that in there. Something like that could not possibly withstand a court challenge. You may be confusing this with a yearly background check that will be done by law enforcement without the purchaser's knowledge. This check will only apply to a person who has purchased a handgun or AR after July 1, 2019.

Thank you again. I had no idea the hippa wave already applied to handguns!

I also had no idea these new restrictions applied to new handgun purchases !

Ugh!

 

[svxr8dr]

I have a blog post with the highlights of what's in I-1639 here: Initiative 1639 – What You Need to Know

When my daughter turns 18 on 2/9 and I gift her the S&W M&P 15-22 and Bushmaster AR we already consider hers are we breaking the law?

 

[ACO]

A thought just hit me, what if the AR is transferred as a pistol, and then later configured as a rifle by the owner? Would that not keep you clear of some of this?

 

[rdb241]

@rdb241
Have you ever bought ammo gun cleaning kit, ect. with a credit card then yes you have a paper trail

No I haven't. I don't use a credit card at all. If I can't pay for it. I can wait until I can. Maybe 6-8% of all my stuff has a trail.

 

[rdb241]

A thought just hit me, what if the AR is transferred as a pistol, and then later configured as a rifle by the owner? Would that not keep you clear of some of this?

No. Once a receiver is sold over the counter as a pistol. It will always be a pistol. It is illegal to convert it to a rifle if it is on paper as a pistol.

 

[bikemutt]

No. Once a receiver is sold over the counter as a pistol. It will always be a pistol. It is illegal to convert it to a rifle if it is on paper as a pistol.

I think you have that backwards; if it's a pistol to start with it can be converted to a rifle, if it's a rifle to start with it may not be converted to a pistol. I could be wrong of course, it's been a while since I looked at that area.

 

[ACO]

Yeah, its
Pistol to rifle=OK
Rifle tk pistol= only if it was a pistol first.

 

[fredball]

This is what it might look like in the not so distant future

 

[fredball]

No. Once a receiver is sold over the counter as a pistol. It will always be a pistol. It is illegal to convert it to a rifle if it is on paper as a pistol.

So heres the way it is in washington
An AR receiver can be built into a long gun or hand gun

If it is stamped pistol then pistol it is

 

[WALawyer]

When my daughter turns 18 on 2/9 and I gift her the S&W M&P 15-22 and Bushmaster AR we already consider hers are we breaking the law?

I am afraid so. Section 13 of I-1639 says:

A person under twenty-one years of age may not purchase a pistol or semiautomatic assault rifle, and except as otherwise provided in this chapter, no person may sell or transfer a semiautomatic assault rifle to a person under twenty-one years of age.

"Transfer" is further defined as

[T]he intended delivery of a firearm to another person without consideration of payment or promise of payment including, but not limited to, gifts and loans.

Your daughter can still possess the AR in certain situations, but you cannot transfer the firearm to her. Don't ask me what the difference is, who knows. That's the problem with overbroad and underthought gun control laws.

 

[svxr8dr]

Thank you for that, Looks like we need to get involved in legal action.

 

[rdb241]

I think you have that backwards; if it's a pistol to start with it can be converted to a rifle, if it's a rifle to start with it may not be converted to a pistol. I could be wrong of course, it's been a while since I looked at that area.

OOpps...I did do that backwards.....lol

 

[rdb241]

Yeah, its
Pistol to rifle=OK
Rifle tk pistol= only if it was a pistol first.

But you can take a new stripped receiver and build it either way. Just the receiver and then build then gun.

 

[HuckFin]

Lets be real I think everyone on this forum has a paper trail.

Not me. All my guns were bought before I-594 and all of the ones I bought through an FFL have been sold, traded or lost before I-594 was passed.

 

[11Charlie]

Not me. All my guns were bought before I-594 and all of the ones I bought through an FFL have been sold, traded or lost before I-594 was passed.

You have never bought ammo or accessories on line?

 

[bbbass]

Hows idaho this time of year?

Cold.

 

[HuckFin]

You have never bought ammo or accessories on line?

All the time.

 

[11Charlie]

All the time.

Then you have a paper trail.