Oregon Fagan Scandal And Resignation - Any Potential Impact On Initiatives?

[Bobbygun]

I think to say someone did something for power, swindling, greed, et al assumes a lot about someone you probably don't know much about.

Did you miss the part where she was a politician?

 

[Stomper]

Or she did it simply to help in some way. Or 1000 other reasons.
I've taken on a few jobs that didn't pay well in $$$ but was still satisfying.

Seems it's like this in life:
Young, for the money.
Later in life, for the prestige,
and finally, for us old farts, the satisfaction of a job well done.

I'm going on 60, and as much as I like a big payday, I'd prefer to do something that really matters.
I'd rather work serving the homeless meals for min-wage than work for Nike at 100k a year.
I'm no Mother Teresa, nothing altruistic about it, just a sense that I'm helping.

I think to say someone did something for power, swindling, greed, et al assumes a lot about someone you probably don't know much about.

IMO, don't be a hater when you really don't know their story. I'm sure like most of us I figure, you've had folks judge you based upon bias.

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Pollyanna much?

I judge her on known facts. She had an affair with a married co-worker at Mercedes-Benz in Wilsonville. I recently found out he left his family and married her…. Had two kids with her, now divorced (big shocker there… not) and I guarantee you that she's getting no small sum in child-support from her "ex".


She's a total D-bag, like the rest of them.

 

[solv3nt]

Pollyanna much?

I judge her on known facts. She had an affair with a married co-worker at Mercedes-Benz in Wilsonville. I recently found out he left his family and married her…. Had two kids with her, now divorced (big shocker there… not) and I guarantee you that she's getting no small sum in child-support from her "ex".


She's a total D-bag, like the rest of them.

If a person cheats on their spouse, they'll cheat in business.

 

[Stomper]

If a person cheats on their spouse, they'll cheat in business.

And pretty much everything else in life, too.

 

[CamoDeafie]

If a person cheats on their spouse, they'll cheat in business.

Indeed. Only if the couple is into polyamory and have open, honest communication.. something even regular couples have issues with

 

[Stomper]

Indeed. Only if the couple is into polyamory and have open, honest communication.. something even regular couples have issues with

For my wife and me there's two things you don't "come back from".

1. Cheating

2. Kid diddling


If you're not into your current spouse any longer then at LEAST end the current relationship before you get to that point of cheating, otherwise it's an ego trip… plus knowingly schtooping a married person on the sly is of the same character flaw.

 

[solv3nt]

For my wife and me there's two things you don't "come back from".

1. Cheating

2. Kid diddling


If you're not into your current spouse any longer then at LEAST end the current relationship before you get to that point of cheating, otherwise it's an ego trip… plus knowingly schtooping a married person on the sly is of the same character flaw.

I think you're missing spousal murder.

 

[CamoDeafie]

For my wife and me there's two things you don't "come back from".

1. Cheating

2. Kid diddling


If you're not into your current spouse any longer then at LEAST end the current relationship before you get to that point of cheating, otherwise it's an ego trip… plus knowingly schtooping a married person on the sly is of the same character flaw.

That depends. My wife is between Asexual and "Demisexual" in that she experiences no sexual attraction to anyone else except someone who she developed a deep romantic and emotional connection with; like me. So from her point of view, swinging/wife swapping/polyamory can work out only if everyone involved are honest, open, and fully trusting but like I said, most people have a hard time with just being honest and open with each other in binary/normal relationships...

For me though.. I am a horn dog, that much is clear. Some people consider looking at other people or porn or whatnot to be "cheating" with that said... I don't ever plan on cheating on my wife.

 

[Stomper]

I think you're missing spousal murder.

Maybe it was justified….

 

[solv3nt]

Maybe it was justified….

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But if you dead, you dead.

 

[Stomper]

That depends. My wife is between Asexual and "Demisexual" in that she experiences no sexual attraction to anyone else except someone who she developed a deep romantic and emotional connection with; like me. So from her point of view, swinging/wife swapping/polyamory can work out only if everyone involved are honest, open, and fully trusting but like I said, most people have a hard time with just being honest and open with each other in binary/normal relationships...

For me though.. I am a horn dog, that much is clear. Some people consider looking at other people or porn or whatnot to be "cheating" with that said... I don't ever plan on cheating on my wife.

Hey, whatever works for ya, man!

 

[Stomper]

But if you dead, you dead.

Some creates da bodies, not be da bodies!

 

[solv3nt]

That depends. My wife is between Asexual and "Demisexual" in that she experiences no sexual attraction to anyone else except someone who she developed a deep romantic and emotional connection with; like me. So from her point of view, swinging/wife swapping/polyamory can work out only if everyone involved are honest, open, and fully trusting but like I said, most people have a hard time with just being honest and open with each other in binary/normal relationships...

For me though.. I am a horn dog, that much is clear. Some people consider looking at other people or porn or whatnot to be "cheating" with that said... I don't ever plan on cheating on my wife.

Damnit Jim, between the randomass acronyms, now your made up terms, I feel like a boomer.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Hey, whatever works for ya, man!

Man, Jess and I have been dating/together since Sept 2013, and married since Dec 2018, ain't no way I'm letting that one go away!

 

[solv3nt]

Some creates da bodies, not be da bodies!

 

[CamoDeafie]

Damnit Jim, between the randomass acronyms, now your made up terms, I feel like a boomer.

My name is not Jim and I need a gym there's a reason I put "" around the term. It best describes her because she's willing to.have sex only with me, and that was after a year and half to 2 years of dating, romance, cultivating a romantic and emotional connection and building the trust

 

[Stomper]

Man, Jess and I have been dating/together since Sept 2013, and married since Dec 2018, ain't no way I'm letting that one go away!

You ARE a dog… I would NEVER marry a woman that would stoop low enough to date me.

 

[Stomper]

My name is not Jim and I need a gym there's a reason I put "" around the term. It best describes her because she's willing to.have sex only with me, and that was after a year and half to 2 years of dating, romance, cultivating a romantic and emotional connection and building the trust

So…. you were an ace in HS drama club and wore your game-face…..

 

[CamoDeafie]

You ARE a dog… I would NEVER marry a woman that would stoop low enough to date me.

What can I say, she brought me two wonderful children we've always had eyes for each other since oh the school year of 2001-2002..... and after several relationships that fell apart for me... it took time for me to mature enough for her to go for me lol

 

[solv3nt]

My name is not Jim and I need a gym there's a reason I put "" around the term. It best describes her because she's willing to.have sex only with me, and that was after a year and half to 2 years of dating, romance, cultivating a romantic and emotional connection and building the trust