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Last Winter's history contradicts that assertion: Almost all Democrats in Congress followed President Obama's lead and voted to NOT keep the Bush tax cuts for the Very Rich 2% of Americans, but voted to RENEW the tax cuts for the lower income 98% of Americans. Virtually NO Republicans would allow this, and vowed that either the Very Rich got their tax cuts or NOBODY got tax cuts, and SWORE that they would shut down the government instead. President Obama was very aware that the entire economy was still on the precipice of falling into another Great Depression, and he caved in to the Republicans. To repeat: the Democrats tried to give tax breaks to 98% of taxpayers; the Republicans BLOCKED that unless the Very Rich 2% got their tax breaks. The Democrats were prevented from their long-term effort at ending the "uber-rich" tax cuts..........................elsullo

You mean they performed a dog and pony show for your viewing pleasure and then what was always going to happen which is to help out only the uber wealthy is what happened. They get to tell "Elsullo" "sorry man we tried" and they again help out the people who have bought and paid for them.

Don't be fooled by political theater, the game is fixed.

Stop listening to words and start looking at the bottom line!
 
You mean they performed a dog and pony show for your viewing pleasure and then what was always going to happen which is to help out only the uber wealthy is what happened. They get to tell "Elsullo" "sorry man we tried" and they again help out the people who have bought and paid for them.

Don't be fooled by political theater, the game is fixed.

Stop listening to words and start looking at the bottom line!

^This. You got to quit getting sucked into their game. Wake up and see what's really going on. Until you do, you will keep wasting your energy by quibbling over nonsense. Both red and blue teams are there for your distraction and amusement so you won't pay attention to the things that might make a real difference in your life. You keep watching the puppet show, while a few of us watch them putting the finishing touches on the bonfire and kettle we are all to be cooked in. We're screaming bloody murder - why won't you wake up?
 
Half the people on this thread seem to be card carrying communist/Socialists.
It is like talking to the people that were evicted from Bedlam. Brainwashed to the point of
losing all the grey matter....
Someone should cull the termites.
Exactly why I spend as little time here as I do.
 
Bugeye:

They all serve the same evil ends, they are all bought and paid for - on that we can agree. Why do you set yourself up for abuse by defending a side that you find "slightly less distasteful"? They should all be arrested and prosecuted for the complete array of crimes they commit daily. Red team, Blue team - all criminals. Time to put away childish arguments and work together for a better future for the human race.

I was listening to a radio show, and the host uttered an absolute truth. I don't think he meant to, but truer words I never heard. "Things are going to get worse before they get...... much, much worse."

I think you will find it hard to get many participants in your 'off with their heads' system of gov. Maybe a lottery - death panel sort of selection process, where they show up at your door, handcuff you, and drag you off to DC.

For some stupid reason I value reason, truth, and objectivity, and when I see these things that are precious to me trampled it gets my dander up. If these values are unimportant what sort of system can we ever have? And if we say, well this BS is just just a means to bring about more holy ends, then we have fallen into a trap, because the means, being real actions, become the ends, as they were only a calculated fantasy anyway. Actions easily overcome intentions, else we would be up to our yin yangs in saints.
 
Half the people on this thread seem to be card carrying communist/Socialists.
It is like talking to the people that were evicted from Bedlam. Brainwashed to the point of
losing all the grey matter....
Someone should cull the termites.
Exactly why I spend as little time here as I do.

I think we have a winner in the first round of the ubberbubba contest. In the much harder next round he will have to crawl so far to the right that he will find a neo nazi forum to be a bastion of liberalism.
 
I think we have a winner in the first round of the ubberbubba contest. In the much harder next round he will have to crawl so far to the right that he will find a neo nazi forum to be a bastion of liberalism.

The winner will be Obama because in spite of his talking points, his actions, and the only people helps are the ubberrich.
 
Half the people on this thread seem to be card carrying communist/Socialists.
It is like talking to the people that were evicted from Bedlam. Brainwashed to the point of
losing all the grey matter....
Someone should cull the termites.
Exactly why I spend as little time here as I do.

Yes, but this is Oregon. I was born here, grew up here, but only in the last ten years have I seen so many commies coming out of the closet. When I was a kid in the 50's and 60's no one admitted to believing in communism, there were no homosexuals, in the late 60's "free love" became the mantra of the left but now they are talking about what they really want, chaos. They will get chaos too!
Donald Trump is another product of our times, glitter and cameras. He is not presidential material anymore than Obama is. There really is no hope for America. I'm genuinely sorry. It's a waste of time talking about this, there are too many Oregonians who don't know right from wrong, who don't understand the marketplace, who are tied one way or another to big government, or who pay no taxes at all! The rich are not the problem, the left is. Of course the portion of the left that rants the most are filthy stinking rich!
It's all a big joke on America.
 
I think you will find it hard to get many participants in your 'off with their heads' system of gov. Maybe a lottery - death panel sort of selection process, where they show up at your door, handcuff you, and drag you off to DC.

For some stupid reason I value reason, truth, and objectivity, and when I see these things that are precious to me trampled it gets my dander up. If these values are unimportant what sort of system can we ever have? And if we say, well this BS is just just a means to bring about more holy ends, then we have fallen into a trap, because the means, being real actions, become the ends, as they were only a calculated fantasy anyway. Actions easily overcome intentions, else we would be up to our yin yangs in saints.

It looks like english, but I dunno... I don't think we are even speaking the same language.
 
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