At what point do we label the Covid - 19 virus a SHTF event ?

[titsonritz]

At what point do we label the Covid 19 virus a SHTF event?

How about when it comes close to killing as many people as the flu?

 

[P7M13]

The question is how much worse will it get?

Look at the trajectory of the disease in China. We are in for a pretty heavy ride. Only now, almost four months after discovery, are they reporting drops in number of cases, which can be expected of a viral outbreak.

 

[CountryGent]

Look at the trajectory of the disease in China. We are in for a pretty heavy ride. Only now, almost four months after discovery, are they reporting drops in number of cases, which can be expected of a viral outbreak.

Indeed. And I'd add what is going down in Europe right now.

 

[GunSmoke]

At what point do we label the Covid 19 virus a SHTF event?

How about when it comes close to killing as many people as the flu?

I believe it's being predicted to kill more people than the flu. By up to 10x

 

[albin25]

When the Kungflu-Virus starts to re-animate it's victims, and they start to wander around in herds, looking for brains to eat....
.... Of coarse, in a very short order they'll starve.

But, future generations will probably not call it SHTF.... they'll it call something catchy like "Duuhhh" or "When the Freestuff Ended", the "GTPD* "

** Great Toilet Paper Drought

 

[CountryGent]

I believe it's being predicted to kill more people than the flu. By up to 10x

It is. The lethality has been documented to be many times that of the seasonal flu. Yes, the death toll, as of this writing, is significantly lower than the 2019—2020 influenza season. However, keep in mind this outbreak wasn't officially labeled a pandemic until yesterday.

 

[Jonnyuma]

I think (as we've seen from this thread) that "SHTF" is a personal decision when faced incrementally... like art and porn, it's tough to define but we know it when we see it.

Pampered whipdicks in the PNW will make shortages where none should exist. Yeah, other regions too but we're here so let's stick with the locals.

Portland weather-nerds say it might snow later and there's a run on water, toilet paper, milk/eggs/bread... you bugging-in and making French toast? WTF? Do you dingdongs even get that you live in a temperate zone and snow, such as it is, will hamper travel for a day or two at most?

Being a trucker, I LOVE Montana in the winter... no matter how brutal the temps and snow get, MT-ians are like, "I've got enough crap in my basement to last 6 mos... I ain't going anywhere".

By contrast, OR and WA people have a sense of entitlement... "I wwaaaant to be over there and I'm nooooot...".
"Yeah, but your car is a POS, it's snowing, the Gorge (or Snoqualmie Pass) is closed, and you have 0 experience driving in the snow... don't go"
"Yeah, but I waaaaant to be over there and I'm heeeeere..." You're not the boss of me.

Jeez...

I spent all of last winter in MT attempting to train a replacement driver (our guy was disabled in a 5-truck, multiple fatality pile-up outside of Missoula) and had to go all thumbs-down on a couple of prospects because it just wasn't the place for OJT or amateur hour... mess up out here (there) and it could cost a life or two. For their own safety and that of the company I just couldn't give them a green light.

THOSE are the people jumping the SHTF bandwagon and making life harder for the rest of us. They cause artificial shortages on common items and drive up costs. Portland had snow two yrs ago and people bought 5 yrs worth of TP... yet those same people are fighting at Costco and Walmart for the same items.

 

[MannyGlocks]

Wut?

You thought yu wer gunna live forever?

 

[E4mafia]

So any other oregonians a little displeased KB got her cap and trade thru thanks to corona?

Wonder what else she wants to sign while we're in a state of emergency that's the real SHTF.

 

[arakboss]

So any other oregonians a little displeased KB got her cap and trade thru thanks to corona?

Wonder what else she wants to sign while we're in a state of emergency that's the real SHTF.

Maybe a little gun control, you never know what those covid-19 patients are going to do when the stores limit the tp to one roll per customer. Oh and a sales tax too.

 

[CamoDeafie]

For those looking for TP; just go to Big Lots, Bi-Mart, Fred Meyer, Grocery Outlet. These in Albany have quite a supply of TP available. Can't say the same for the disinfecting sprays/wipes/hand sanitizers though plenty of lotions, soaps, cleaning chemicals on the other hand.

I thought Cap and Trade died this go around because there were no quorum for this session thanks to most of the Republicans walking out? I'm seeing articles claiming that this years session was "disappointing","unfairly held hostage", and so on

 

[E4mafia]

For those looking for TP; just go to Big Lots, Bi-Mart, Fred Meyer, Grocery Outlet. These in Albany have quite a supply of TP available. Can't say the same for the disinfecting sprays/wipes/hand sanitizers though plenty of lotions, soaps, cleaning chemicals on the other hand.

I thought Cap and Trade died this go around because there were no quorum for this session thanks to most of the Republicans walking out? I'm seeing articles claiming that this years session was "disappointing","unfairly held hostage", and so on

Look again she just signed it on March 10th. Haven't seen a single person on this site mention it only found out from my boss the other day while out at K1 speedway.

 

[Jonnyuma]

my dermatologist recently advised me to use lotion and I told her "I'm a guy. Real men don't moisturize!!!

So I guess exfoliating with tiny apricots is out of the question...

 

[MannyGlocks]

Don't burn the leaves...they have use.

 

[bbbass]

If you can't find TP, use the bandsaw to cut down the brawny rolls

Does it matter that it's set up for wood right now instead of fine tooth???

So any other oregonians a little displeased KB got her cap and trade thru thanks to corona?

Wonder what else she wants to sign while we're in a state of emergency that's the real SHTF.

I've seen nothing about "Cap and Trade" being signed. Not anywhere. I did however, read a story about her Executive Order making the Oregon DEQ change to fuel standards. As I wrote elsewhere, welcome to $4.50 per gallon fuel!!

 

[CamoDeafie]

Look again she just signed it on March 10th. Haven't seen a single person on this site mention it only found out from my boss the other day while out at K1 speedway.

Well. Great. Executive actions. I hope this galvanizes the Rural communities and Timber Unity to push lawsuits and get recalls/elimination elections underway against them...

 

[CamoDeafie]

Does it matter that it's set up for wood right now instead of fine tooth???





I've seen nothing about "Cap and Trade" being signed. Not anywhere. I did however, read a story about her Executive Order making the Oregon DEQ change to fuel standards. As I wrote elsewhere, welcome to $4.50 per gallon fuel!!

Oregon cap and trade: How would Gov. Kate Brown's executive order let her use $5 million to carry out climate change policy

 

[E4mafia]

Well. Great. Executive actions. I hope this galvanizes the Rural communities and Timber Unity to push lawsuits and get recalls/elimination elections underway against them...

I'd hope that most on this site see this. This legislative session also had gun control in the agenda.

Whose to say something couldn't happen while people are panick buying or out of precaution for safety admist this virus....

 

[MannyGlocks]

$4.50 per gallon will be moot if you're quarantined at home...heck, make it an even $10.00 a gallon...why not, you won't be needing any?

 

[P7M13]

mess up out here (there) and it could cost a life or two.

Thread jack, but I *so* know what you mean here. If I foul-up on the job, they're evacuating a five mile radius or pulling out bodies. Some places I go, it amazes me they haven't pulled a Bopal yet.