Ar-15 vs. Mini 14

[salmonriverjohn]

That's alright, I still say the .30-06 is far superior to the .270

 

[Capn Jack]

I had forgotten just how nasty a crack the .223 makes until I forgot my plugs one day at the range.

After about a dozen "Booms" out of my .458S, I got out my "poor man's varmint rifle", but one shot
was enough. OUCH!!

Jack...

PS. All I have is AR's

 

[U201491]

Good hearing aids run 6 to7 K.

 

[U201491]

That's alright, I still say the .30-06 is far superior to the .270

Like em both
Best thing is you can fire form 270 into 06 and you can neck size 06 int 270. If you get tired of those you can size either one down to 308 or 243. Good stuff all around.

 

[razormanxx]

How do you not have time for ear protection?

 

[Brutus57]

I was at the range today and switched out with my buddy to spot shots for him. Thought I could flip my ball cap backwards quick enough before someone fired! Not, and I still had my old military jet plugs in but was trying to get my mouse ears back over my ears, OUCH.

brutus out

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

I've been at the range next to hand cannons of some ear bursting caliber that my ear plugs wouldn't handle. Had to move away or go deaf. I can't imagine plinking with my Mini or even my 9mm without protection. Years of metal fab work and forgetting to wear plugs here and there have done enough damage. I want to keep what I still have.

 

[Capn Jack]

You're right...Big Bucks and they recommended I not wear them under my muffs.

Actually, I almost lost one when it hung up in a muff pad.

I take 'em out, turn 'em off and put on my muffs for pistol, plugs for rifle.

Jack...

 

[jbuck]

How do you not have time for ear protection?

Sometimes there are predators and varmints of opportunity. Often that means as fast as you can grab a gun they are running off. Yes once in a while I have time for some ear muffs but its the exception not the norm.

While not at work I shoot 100% suppressed with plugs.

 

[U201491]

For me. I settled on a mini30 and couldn't be happier. I use a rifle for work and never have time for ear protection. So that pretty much rules the 223/5.56 out. Tried it once and decided I would be losing significant hearing if I kept it up. So I tried the 300blk and it was ok, but still wasn't quite right. I then tried a ruger mini30 and it was perfect. Had enough power for effective kills, and was relitively quite.
I have a ranch model with a 1.5-5 Leupold and have never shot a group at 100yds with it so I don't know how accurate it is. I do know that it is accurate enough to hit everything I point it at.

What do you work at?

 

[Misterbill]

For me. I settled on a mini30 and couldn't be happier. I use a rifle for work and never have time for ear protection. So that pretty much rules the 223/5.56 out. Tried it once and decided I would be losing significant hearing if I kept it up. So I tried the 300blk and it was ok, but still wasn't quite right. I then tried a ruger mini30 and it was perfect. Had enough power for effective kills, and was relitively quite.
I have a ranch model with a 1.5-5 Leupold and have never shot a group at 100yds with it so I don't know how accurate it is. I do know that it is accurate enough to hit everything I point it at.

Please tell us all what work you do that you don't have time for ear protection.

Cause I'd buy that from a guy in the line who's hearing hasn't been damaged too much who is looking at his *** being shot off vs. protecting his hearing.

But I would LOVE to hear about your civilian job where hearing protection doesn't count.

Please, enlighten us. Cause the guys on Swat teams? including the couple i've talked to on the FBI HRT team use hearing protection of some sort except in VERY specific situations.

But clearly, you're a lot more high-speed, low-drag than them. Let's hear it.

 

[salmonriverjohn]

Always one to point out the best in folks Bill, there are times I wish you wouldn't be such a jack a$$. I do like reading some of your valuable opinions and informative points of view, but others,,
not so much.

 

[trainsktg]

At my job, I usually wear ear plugs 10 hours a day. Just stick 'em in and get to work.

Keith

 

[1990Turbo]

At my job, I usually wear ear plugs 10 hours a day. Just stick 'em in and get to work.

Keith

What part of town do you work in im in NW on front. And yes we have to wear earplugs all day also

 

[erudne]

The Minis accuracy problem is due to several things, all of which can be addressed
#1 The Op Rod is far too heavy, heavier than an m-14's, it slams back and forth with each shot setting up barrel vibrations that ruin accuracy shot to shot, especially in older models.
Fix: install 1911 plastic recoil buffers in front of gas piston and at rear of recoil spring. Install reduced gas port bushing. shorten barrel and add heavy MB to increase barrel stiffness
#2 The system is over gassed causing increased recoil and exuberant ejection of empty brass.
Fix: reduced gas bushing
#3 Wandering zero, oversize groups.
Fix: all the above plus a trigger job and glass bed the for end at the gas block.
Additionally Loctite scope rings

 

[Sgt Nambu]

HaHaHa! I own both AR's and Mini's and I like them both!
However, silk purse from a sows ear! I wouldn't throw much cash at a Mini-14.

 

[jbuck]

Please tell us all what work you do that you don't have time for ear protection.

Cause I'd buy that from a guy in the line who's hearing hasn't been damaged too much who is looking at his *** being shot off vs. protecting his hearing.

But I would LOVE to hear about your civilian job where hearing protection doesn't count.

Please, enlighten us. Cause the guys on Swat teams? including the couple i've talked to on the FBI HRT team use hearing protection of some sort except in VERY specific situations.
But clearly, you're a lot more high-speed, low-drag than them. Let's hear it.

I don't really want to get specific about where I work. But I live in the sticks and would say its a cross between the guy who patrols timberland from blackbear and the farmer who has to deal with coyotes after livestock. And sometimes both.

I'm about as low speed and high drag as they get though.

Edit:
Yes I have thought about using a supressor at work, but I think it would be to much of a liability from theft if I have to leave it in a work rig.

Yes a pair of ear plugs at the biggining of the day would work if I didn't have to communicate with logging trucks on the radio.

 

[razormanxx]

Jbuck you should look into a suppressor/silencer. That and the cost of the tax stamp should be a business write off since it sounds work related. Or maybe some nice electronic muffs.

 

[Jammer Six]

I wish I had a dollar for every guy who has a gun and doesn't want to talk about where he works.

Well, unless we pull it out of him, of course.

 

[erudne]

Armed with a semi rifle, works in the woods:
Obvious; he's a Park Ranger