Active shooter at a Texas HS

[nwslopoke]

Continuing that thought on modern communications -- I know a lot of us wonder what the heck happened to make school shootings a thing. So many of these are copy-cat events. When I was a kid, to learn about something to copy cat would have required I was reading newspapers or watching the news -- yeah right, that barely happened. Today though, every little bit of crazy gets instant fame on social media, 24/7 news sources, online news sources, and so forth -- you have to be totally living under a rock to not hear about it.

I know others have said this same thing, and I guess it is a pretty obvious comment, and there's no turning back either. I love being able to get information about things that I don't know how to do -- youtube has saved me a bundle on plumbers alone -- but there is a dark side.

We used to say about programming a computer, garbage in garbage out. Yes we have many outlets for information but most feed us garbage with misleading tag lines to get clicks for $$. "Dirty Laundry" covered this in 1981 (?) but no one guessed how bad it could get.

I am trying to prepare for the 'adjustment' that is inevitable. The elites or power base are so arrogant they believe the can control all outcomes irregardless of more shootings, homeless, ect.

Being free leaves you exposed but also motivated. Something these kids are lacking. 18-20 is the point these kids are facing reality of the lies they were told about being prepared. Maybe they go back to the schools because it's the source of the lies.

 

[Ura-Ki]

And Think about just how fragile a teen mind is, you hlgot all those hormones effecting you, social issues, and a mental state that is chaotic at best!And these are the more normal ones, add in all the dark side stuff and you got a ticking time bomb! How many go off and kill them selves? Pick any reason and they choose one and act on it! I always said "teenagers, you don't wanna mess with them" they got more confusing things going on in there young brains then any 3 women at certain times. This all combined with all the other issues of disconnet and you have the makings of a shooter just waiting for that final trigger Th at sets them off on the path! They are one of the most mentally unstable class of people out there, and we cast them out amongst the wolves completey unprepared for life, in part because of the very schools that failed them, parents that failed them, and a society that cannot accept them! I see the social media, the video games ( especiall the on line stuff where they can really get pushed around) and the MSM all plays a roll in the social disconnect where these kids are further cast out from reality, and combined with the loss of morality, mortality, and you really have a weapon of mass destruction on your hands! I don't even see it as a mental illness, it's a social illness!

 

[JavaDude]

Need to stop sensationalizing these dip weeds in the MSM. They should be painted as the monsters and s courage to society they really are...

But that'll never happen, because the media beats a socialist/progressive drum. The sole solution is the disarmament of American Citizens.

Once we are subjects and unable to fight back, then they'll be able to create their ultimate utopia, it'll look something like a blended mess of Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Los Angeles, Compton and Philadelphia. This is their vision for the entire country.

They don't want us to be able to protect ourselves from street thugs and crimes. These are the folks who embrace and defense MS13 while working towards destroying the Second Amendment...

Go figure...

Agreed, here is their utopian dream unfolding in Venezuela.

 

[nammac]

Agreed, here is their utopian dream unfolding in Venezuela.

Amen brother, isn't that the truth!

 

[SUPER X]

I'd like to.

I just seen on the news Stormy Daniels is in Portland . There is a pussy hat for you guys.

 

[nammac]

I just seen on the news Stormy Daniels is in Portland . There is a pussy hat for you guys.

No thanks, I prefer mine to be low mileage...

 

[SUPER X]

No thanks, I prefer mine to be low mileage...

Low Round Count ? lol

 

[Boboclown]

When I was a kid we played on dirt piles, made jumps out in the field, built cars out of scrap wood and skate wheels and took turns pushing each other around the neighborhood. On Friday evenings mom took us to the store to buy ammo and the Saturdays we were up at 0dark30 and gone shooting out in no mans land until dusk. Nobody cared what we did and we didn't cause trouble. So yeah...what changed?

When I was a kid on the farm I was in South Korea so no guns...

But also no bathrooms with indoor plumbing. It was a giant hole in the ground that made the oxen smell nice in comparison. We ate fried locusts as a family, we'd run around looking for something to do. I didn't always have shoes, something people will fight each other for just because they step on someone else's shoe and get it dirty.

Media makes folk heroes out of the wackjobs, people are sensitive about everything, and technology has made us dumb.

 

[awshoot]

Interesting tidbit related to the discussion on gun storage -- Texas already has a law somewhat akin to what we've been discussing, at least the stick part if not the carrot: https://www.quora.com/Does-the-owne...-liability-under-current-Texas-or-federal-law

Under Texas law, if a child under 17 years of age gains access to a readily dischargeable firearm (i.e., loaded with ammunition, whether or not a round is in the chamber), a person is criminally liable if he or she, "with criminal negligence:"

• Failed to secure the firearm (i.e., to take steps a reasonable person would take to prevent the access to a readily dischargeable firearm by a child, including but not limited to placing a firearm in a locked container or temporarily rendering the firearm inoperable by a trigger lock or other means); or
• Left the firearm in a place to which the person knew or should have known the child would gain access.

However, a person is not guilty under this law if the child's access to the firearm:

• Was supervised by a person older than age 18 and was for hunting, sporting, or other lawful purposes;
• Consisted of lawful defense by the child of people or property;
• Was gained by entering property in violation of this code; or
• Occurred during a time when the actor was engaged in an agricultural enterprise.

The penalty for a violation is significantly harsher if the child discharges the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury to himself, herself or another person.

Of course, the kid here was 17, not "under 17" so it is probably not applicable.

 

[SUPER X]

When I was a kid on the farm I was in South Korea so no guns...

But also no bathrooms with indoor plumbing. It was a giant hole in the ground that made the oxen smell nice in comparison. We ate fried locusts as a family, we'd run around looking for something to do. I didn't always have shoes, something people will fight each other for just because they step on someone else's shoe and get it dirty.

Media makes folk heroes out of the wackjobs, people are sensitive about everything, and technology has made us dumb.

My grandfather used to say ( If your whining that you have no shoes look at a man that has no feet )

 

[Boboclown]

Interesting tidbit related to the discussion on gun storage -- Texas already has a law somewhat akin to what we've been discussing, at least the stick part if not the carrot: https://www.quora.com/Does-the-owne...-liability-under-current-Texas-or-federal-law



Of course, the kid here was 17, not "under 17" so it is probably not applicable.

NC also has a law saying you have to store it in a way a minor can't get it. But apparently its too "ambiguous."

 

[bbbass]

Well, I was going to start work on ideas for repairing broken schools and society, but I see we are still talking about "improper storage" laws... Never mind.

 

[awshoot]

Well, I was going to start work on ideas for repairing broken schools and society, but I see we are still talking about "improper storage" laws... Never mind.

These are not mutually exclusive strategies. Good storage might have prevented him from getting guns, metal detectors might have prevented him from getting guns inside the school. Doing both would be far better than doing none, as here.

 

[bbbass]

These are not mutually exclusive strategies. Good storage might have prevented him from getting guns, metal detectors might have prevented him from getting guns inside the school. Doing both would be far better than doing none, as here.

Yup. I'm just tired of talking about "improper storage".

 

[nwslopoke]

I know this is days behind but even now any news article reports what guns were not used. What deaths the AR15 was used for, regardless it had no relation to this event. Then the articles go into t-shirts, blah blah.

Very little is said about the shotgun used BUT in one TV report they said a 38 revolver was used but in a few print articles they show a semiautomatic pistol. From my point of view it's, anything but the truth.

Am I nitpicking in the face of a larger tragedy or am I right to be disgusted by further misinformation by the press?

 

[bbbass]

I know this is days behind but even now any news article reports what guns were not used. What deaths the AR15 was used for, regardless it had no relation to this event. Then the articles go into t-shirts, blah blah.

Very little is said about the shotgun used BUT in one TV report they said a 38 revolver was used but in a few print articles they show a semiautomatic pistol. From my point of view it's, anything but the truth.

Am I nitpicking in the face of a larger tragedy or am I right to be disgusted by further misinformation by the press?

No I think you are right because it's a big factor in the war on 2A rights.

I also noticed that there was no reporting on this incident over the weekend... it was all royal wedding 24/7.

 

[slimmer13]

I know this is days behind but even now any news article reports what guns were not used. What deaths the AR15 was used for, regardless it had no relation to this event. Then the articles go into t-shirts, blah blah.

Very little is said about the shotgun used BUT in one TV report they said a 38 revolver was used but in a few print articles they show a semiautomatic pistol. From my point of view it's, anything but the truth.

Am I nitpicking in the face of a larger tragedy or am I right to be disgusted by further misinformation by the press?

Well if this POS was able to cause this much tragedy with a revolver and shotgun, think what could have been done with a WMD like an AR. He could have single handedly wiped out southern Texas.

That's the spin

 

[Slobray]

We need to do as some is this thread are saying because.................

It's only "reasonable" to push for even more restrictive laws, you know, because, OH MY GOD, WE HAVE TO DO "SOMETHING"................. no matter how much of an infringement it is, constitutional or not, whether it's viable, addresses any of the issues of "gun violence" and/or no matter whether it will/would or won't/wouldn't have make/made a difference in past or future mass shootings.

We have to do this now, to get out in front of the anti's. Advocating gun control laws to punish ourselves (along with every other gun owner who wasn't responsible for and had nothing (in any way shape or form) to do with the latest or any other shooting) is the only way to stop the anti's from ever proposing "gun control safety laws", that might restrict firearm ownership or eviscerate the 2A. Also, doing so proves that we're "responsible gun owners" that have "common sense" who wants only the best "for the children" and not a basket of heartless, NRA brainwashed, angry, vitriolic, paranoid, Trump loving, baby killing Republican gun nuts with small penises.



Ray

 

[etrain16]

We need to do as some is this thread are saying because.................

It's only "reasonable" to push for even more restrictive laws, you know, because, OH MY GOD, WE HAVE TO DO "SOMETHING"................. no matter how much of an infringement it is, constitutional or not, whether it's viable, addresses any of the issues of "gun violence" and/or no matter whether it will/would or won't/wouldn't have make/made a difference in past or future mass shootings.

We have to do this now, to get out in front of the anti's. Advocating gun control laws to punish ourselves (along with every other gun owner who wasn't responsible for and had nothing (in any way shape or form) to do with the latest or any other shooting) is the only way to stop the anti's from ever proposing "gun control safety laws", that might restrict firearm ownership or eviscerate the 2A. Also, doing so proves that we're "responsible gun owners" that have "common sense" who wants only the best "for the children" and not a basket of heartless, NRA brainwashed, angry, vitriolic, paranoid, Trump loving, baby killing Republican gun nuts with small penises.



Ray

You forgot "gun humping"

 

[Ura-Ki]

We need to do as some is this thread are saying because.................

It's only "reasonable" to push for even more restrictive laws, you know, because, OH MY GOD, WE HAVE TO DO "SOMETHING"................. no matter how much of an infringement it is, constitutional or not, whether it's viable, addresses any of the issues of "gun violence" and/or no matter whether it will/would or won't/wouldn't have make/made a difference in past or future mass shootings.

We have to do this now, to get out in front of the anti's. Advocating gun control laws to punish ourselves (along with every other gun owner who wasn't responsible for and had nothing (in any way shape or form) to do with the latest or any other shooting) is the only way to stop the anti's from ever proposing "gun control safety laws", that might restrict firearm ownership or eviscerate the 2A. Also, doing so proves that we're "responsible gun owners" that have "common sense" who wants only the best "for the children" and not a basket of heartless, NRA brainwashed, angry, vitriolic, paranoid, Trump loving, baby killing Republican gun nuts with small penises.



Ray

Ah, nope, no I don't!
Shall not be infringed! All those mindless sheeple demand action, but none actually know what action to take, because they don't know what will actually work, so they beg the politicos who are chomping at the bit to go do something, and some thing is exactly what we are getting!
No one wants to admit what the real proble.s are, because to do so would be an admission of guilt over a series of failures in the past, and to move forward would require the added expense of doing the right thing! They spend billions to fight against the guns, instead of spending that same money on health care for the mentally ill, but we're the bad guys here!