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It would at that, but beyond that by a few yards? Idunno:
Soooo,your hall way is longer than 45'? That's a big house.
Then you can afford sentries.
My split level is 2000 sq feet and the shot from my bedroom door to the fireplace upstairs is at least 38 feet. Most birdshot loads would be near worthless at that range
Re: Birdshot for home defense use.
Ok, this is to all the "Birdshot Nay Sayers" out there, who think its worthless for home defense use.
I challenge any of you to be shot at from 30 feet with a Rabbit and Squirrel load of #8's, and you tell us how much it didn't hurt and how well you could function, after being shot.
I create this challenge, because the idea that birdshot is useless for home defense and will not do injury is preposterous.
Of course it will injure a person. Heck, at 30 feet, the muzzle blast alone will probably still have some effect!
The idea isn't to kill the person, only to convince them to get the heck out of your home.
Dean
Since you ask, I keep Federal LE 00 Buck (low recoil with the Flight Control Wad). The pattern through my CYL bore guns is superb.What home defence shot size would you choose for your 12 ga. shotgun?
Re: Birdshot for home defense use.
Ok, this is to all the "Birdshot Nay Sayers" out there, who think its worthless for home defense use.
I challenge any of you to be shot at from 30 feet with a Rabbit and Squirrel load of #8's, and you tell us how much it didn't hurt and how well you could function, after being shot.
I create this challenge, because the idea that birdshot is useless for home defense and will not do injury is preposterous.
Of course it will injure a person. Heck, at 30 feet, the muzzle blast alone will probably still have some effect!
The idea isn't to kill the person, only to convince them to get the heck out of your home.
Dean
There's so much BS on this thread that you need wings to stay above it.
Not to throw cold water on this thread, but some of you may want to be mindful of what you put into writing.
Do you think that if, God forbid, you did shoot a bad guy that things being said here would not be uncovered by either the DA or the dirtbag's attorney? Or if the dirtbag died his family's attorney?
I'm trying to say you do not want to give the opposition council any argument(s) of any predisposed malace on your part. This especially true with home defense. For example, can you imagine all the smoke the opposition's council can create if his client was shot with a reload or a mixture of loads, buckshot, slugs and/or birdshot. Doesn't matter if round was reloaded to factory specs or not.
The first question would be asked, "Mr. Defendant, where did you learn that?" Putting a mixture of different loads in the same gun or using reloads? The implication would be clearly made.
"Yes, my client, Mr. Dirtbag, should't have been in Mr. Defendant's house at 2am, but he wasn't going to hurt anyone he was just looking for food". Or, "He mistakenly went into Mr. Defendants home thinking it was his girlfriend's or his brother's or ........"
"The fact is Mr. Defendant had his gun loaded with......Well, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we don't know. It was a reload. And what's more just take look at this internet forum Mr. Defendant belongs to. He says in his own words that he going to shoot to kill. In other words he was looking to KILL somebody....... Anybody......... What's more is he prepared for a long long time before my poor client stumbled into Mr. Defendant's house by mistake."
An attorney could go on and on and on. The fact that poor Mr. Defendant who was innocently trying to defend what he thought was a threat is irrelavant.
The best thing to load your home defense gun(s) with are what your local police are carrrying. Just check with them. Or better yet talk to your local police department's gun guru(s). By their nature they love talking guns stuff and even more love helping out Joe Citizen. (Helping out citizens is part of their job) See what they are carrying and/or recommend and you have your answer. Or even email them. Then it's documented your attorney can more effectively argue that you had no malace.
(I know this thread had nothing to do with reloads, but I used it in attempt to illustrate my point.)
Just my two cents. Now back to our regularly scheduled program.
I could have sworn that WA was a stand your ground state not a castle state. Meaning you have to believe you or someone else is about to be hurt by the offender before you are free to use force. A stater told me that he can have your tv in his hands but you cannot fire till he raises that tv above his head to throw it at you or drops it and goes for something in his pocket etc. That is what I was told. However no one could verify you followed the rules if the offender is killed...
WA State has castle doctrine law.. no prosecution if they commit the crime of house breaking and are inside when you fire
Now a civil court is a different matter, they can $crew you over even if you do everything right, and there are ways to protect against this in advance. I suggest you all figure out to read between the lines here and get a good estate attorney, ASAP
I could have sworn that WA was a stand your ground state not a castle state. Meaning you have to believe you or someone else is about to be hurt by the offender before you are free to use force. A stater told me that he can have your tv in his hands but you cannot fire till he raises that tv above his head to throw it at you or drops it and goes for something in his pocket etc. That is what I was told. However no one could verify you followed the rules if the offender is killed...
But to answer the topic I use a folded sig556 loaded with hollow point 55gr.