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Wanna mail my form 4 in tomorrow, but first a question or two/

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by OREGON FALER, Mar 25, 2013.

  1. OREGON FALER

    OREGON FALER Springfield, OR. Active Member

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    So just to review , a certificate of compliance is not needed on a form 4 when using a trust, correct?

    also, what parts of a trust should I send in? The whole thing?

    Which mail service did you folks use?
     
  2. CatCow

    CatCow Portland, OR Active Member

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    I do the certificate of compliance anyway. If they don't want it, they can throw it away. For the trust, send in the main part, whatever the other part is called(I forget now, basically anything with a notary stamp on it), and the sched a/property list whatever it's called. I just send it first class mail.
     
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  3. iamme

    iamme Lane County Well-Known Member

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    CoC was still required on the last one I did.

    I mailed priority just so I know it get's there safe.
     
  4. OREGON FALER

    OREGON FALER Springfield, OR. Active Member

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    Alright, so tomorrow then. I've got (2) two copies of the form 4 signed and dated by me and the rest filled out by Pat at Oregon research Labs. (1) one certificate of compliance, My entire trust document and a Check drawn on my trust account for $200. All wrapped up nicely in a priority mail envelope.
    Am I forgetting anything?
     
  5. CatCow

    CatCow Portland, OR Active Member

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    As long as you have it out, you might as well make another dozen photocopies of the trust paperwork for the next forms you send in ;)
     
  6. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Looks like you covered all the bases. I didn't send in the CoC or set up a trust checking account, but I did send in the whole trust.
     
  7. OREGON FALER

    OREGON FALER Springfield, OR. Active Member

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    Have you had any problems being delayed with not having sent the coc?
    Yeah, you're right cause I do have a 5.56 phantom between dealers right now too. And I'll need a 9mm, and a second .22lr. My wife says I'm getting expensive.
     
  8. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Enough time hasn't passed to know if it has or not. My check was cashed 2/20/13.
     
  9. mattdomes

    mattdomes Newberg Active Member

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    I called after 3 weeks and the lady at the BATFE said that I needed to wait 4-5 weeks after my check was cashed to call and see if my paperwork is in the system... Things are getting longer, which sucks!

    Check out NFA Tracker for more info and up to date wait times: NFATracker.com ATF Form 1 and Form 4 Tracking website
     
  10. Ligito

    Ligito Oregon Active Member

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    It might help to get several notarized copies of pertinent documents at the time.
    A copy of a notarized document is not acceptable, in most cases.
     
  11. df662

    df662 Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    Copy of your trust (make sure your schedule A is included), two copies of your form 4 and tax payment. I always send in a COC even though I have a trust (I have done many,many transfers this way). I also always send via priority mail with tracking.
     
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  12. OREGON FALER

    OREGON FALER Springfield, OR. Active Member

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    I can't believe they wouldn't take a copy of a notarized document, Whats a guy suppossed to do get 20 notarized copies right in the beginning and then hope that's enough. I don't think you can just go get more notarized copies of the same document because it would show a different date and be a different trust with the same name.
     
  13. df662

    df662 Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    Copies sent to the ATF do not have to be notarized... I just sent in regular copies....
     
  14. OREGON FALER

    OREGON FALER Springfield, OR. Active Member

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    What I sent them were Xerox copies of the entire trust document, That's the Notarized affidavit and the Notarized trust including schedule A. I'm sure it'll be fine, If not then I guess I get to start over again.
     
  15. df662

    df662 Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    Yes that is good.
     
  16. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    The only time you'll be starting over is when you buy your next NFA toy. Photo copy of the trust is fine for sending to BAFTA for your stamp.
     
  17. OREGON FALER

    OREGON FALER Springfield, OR. Active Member

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    Check cashed on 4/5. It's been a tough two weeks.
     
  18. del_and_bones

    del_and_bones Anchorage, AK Physics Pirate

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    I'm right there with ya. Form 1 individual mailed 3/19 and check cashed 4/4.
     
  19. iamme

    iamme Lane County Well-Known Member

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    The next couple months will be hell if already getting impatient!

     
  20. matt_w

    matt_w Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    Did you send in your schedule A? I got a form 1 kicked back for not including that.