the fan has been struck. S&P downgrade

[jer fly]

Larken Rose interview – "Dialectic and the Myth of Government" – #115 (+ video) - Gnostic Media another good video of someone who has it figured out.

 

[Thebastidge]

No offense meant, but:

Doesn't anybody ever get tired of in-group conspiracy theories? You can pretty much predict everything a person is about to say from the first time you see "bankster" in their post. It's such a tell on your entire world view. Normal people don't talk like that. It's a very clear sign you've been spending too much time in your own circle and not enough getting out and about with other points of view, new sources of information

Some types of conspiracy thinking spiral too much. Time to knock yourself off the spiralling trajectory and inject some new sources into your thinking. At least get rid of the tired rhetoric. Thinking of a new way to phrase your point could cause some inspiration, or at least cause you to think of a better way to explain it.

 

[MikeE]

No offense meant, but:

Doesn't anybody ever get tired of in-group conspiracy theories? You can pretty much predict everything a person is about to say from the first time you see "bankster" in their post. It's such a tell on your entire world view. Normal people don't talk like that. It's a very clear sign you've been spending too much time in your own circle and not enough getting out and about with other points of view, new sources of information

Some types of conspiracy thinking spiral too much. Time to knock yourself off the spiralling trajectory and inject some new sources into your thinking. At least get rid of the tired rhetoric. Thinking of a new way to phrase your point could cause some inspiration, or at least cause you to think of a better way to explain it.

Point taken, and very well said. So here is another way of looking at our problems. I've posted this link from John Robb's site before, but this is as good a description of where we are at as any that I've seen:
JOURNAL: Central Planning and The Fall of the US Empire - Global Guerrillas

 

[Pogue_Mahone]

As long as wealthy corporations have lobbyists paying off our government to pass legislation that is favorable for them, and to not pass unfavorable legislation, it will never REALLY matter who you vote for. Money is power. Humans are greedy. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The government has continually given themselves more power and the people less power. With the patriot act they removed any possibility of "whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government". I watch politics, I vote, but hey I play powerball sometimes too. They are both probably a waste of time, but hey what can you do.
You can point fingers all you want, the banksters, the uber wealthy corporations and all their politician buddies, and even the average joe who just wants the American dream. We are all responsible. As long as people have their white picket fence 2.5 children, their cars and their dog, they just let the government slowly strip our power and increase their own. Sheeple will continue to be fleeced as long as they allow it.

 

[Just Jim]

Sad to say the new terrorist in this country are holding our economy hostage. People are in fear of loseing all they have worked for their entire lives to the point families are stocking food and ammo. Look at all the jobs lost, families ruined, houses lost and the fear it will never come back. Yes the terrorist is our government. They have done more damage than 911.

jj

 

[kenno]

Europe is on the edge of a very tall cliff. That IS Offical
That is all

 

[Redcap]

Sad to say the new terrorist in this country are holding our economy hostage. People are in fear of loseing all they have worked for their entire lives to the point families are stocking food and ammo. Look at all the jobs lost, families ruined, houses lost and the fear it will never come back. Yes the terrorist is our government. They have done more damage than 911.

jj

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