Just wanted to see what comes out of this.. i know theres only about maybe 5 people on this forum that can say they have seen what a well train dog can due to a animal or person when it comes to personal protecion or guard dog like some people would say.. But if SHTF would you want to have a well train dog(or pack) there with you when it comes to survival..? please if u dont know its call google or youtube and look up..bubblegum all you have to do is look up (Personal Protection dogs). just because you have a gun doesnt mean you can shoot them before they get to you. you will be surpise how fast they can move..lol... well lets see whats said.