Oh Snap, Pastor who bought the AR15 could face charges for violating SB941

[Captain O]

"Hypocrisy rarely needs explanation." - Captain Obvious (me).

This is a prima facie ("at first look") case of the State's Primary Law Enforcement agency having no witnesses to the rifle's transfer. Since there was no witness to bear testimony to the physical transfer of the rifle, there is no case.

It should be evident (also at first sight) that the State Police, evidently at the behest of the Governor, didn't want to make a "martyr" of the Pastor.

But Kate "pantystain" Brown may fail to recognize, is that "the sword cuts both ways". It looks as if she'll need to find a "safe space" to which she will likely wish to retreat.

So mote it be. (Read: amen).

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

The OSP just confirmed that when it comes to enforcing SB941 No victim = No crime.

 

[308]

You guys are crazy!!! Heck no don't prosecute him. We have had that stupid law for two years now. Not one case has gone to court. LEO's do not want to enforce it. You guys sound like the dumb pukes who wrote ATF over the Sig Brace to the point that they said heck no you cannot shoulder the thing. Wake up MORONS, you are just as dumb as the Democrats that want to take your guns. Wow I don't believe what I am reading here.

Not everyone here is a dumb puke moron just as dumb as the Democrats

 

[etrain16]

You guys are crazy!!! Heck no don't prosecute him. We have had that stupid law for two years now. Not one case has gone to court. LEO's do not want to enforce it. You guys sound like the dumb pukes who wrote ATF over the Sig Brace to the point that they said heck no you cannot shoulder the thing. Wake up MORONS, you are just as dumb as the Democrats that want to take your guns. Wow I don't believe what I am reading here.

I think you need to go back and re-read the entire thread to see what we're really saying. The whole point of this discussion is that SB941 was unenforceable from day one - we dared them to prosecute one of their own, but we all knew what would happen - nothing.

Lose the insults, especially when you don't have a clue what we're really saying here

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

Did the AR-15 get destroyed or not? Wasn't this Pastor going to make a big public show about it?

 

[Doc In UPlace]

L.A. Times Update

Some of the "highlights" of the story reproduced here:

"
The 44-year-old Episcopal priest's token attempt to take another gun off the streets did little to keep the peace. In response to his gesture, Lucas got threats and demands for his arrest.

"I've come to learn a lot about the nature of social media," Lucas said last week of some of the comments about his one-man, one-gun protest. "The rabid gun activists come out swinging, trying to close down any meaningful conversation and attempting to intimidate people into silence."

So the pastor came up with Plan B: Win the rifle, then destroy it — melt it down, turn it into a piece of art, perhaps a garden tool. Lucas dipped into his church's discretionary fund for $3,000 and, at $20 apiece, bought 150 of the 500 raffle tickets.

When word spread of his plan, he acknowledged it was a mostly symbolic gesture, telling local media: "There are millions of guns, I know that."

But if he won, he said, "this gun will never be used to kill kids in schools, kill people in a movie theater, kill people at an office party or at any other place of mass shootings. … It won't be used by a vet with PTSD to kill himself."

When news about his win and plans to destroy the gun began to spread, Lucas got Facebook thank-yous from relatives of some of the Sandy Hook victims and encouragement from hundreds of others.

Some unhappy commentators suggested Lucas had violated Oregon's new gun law by failing to have a background check conducted on a parishioner to whom he'd given the weapon for safekeeping.

Then there were the "critics and trolls" on social media and on news websites, Lucas wrote on his blog, "lobbing their hate and vitriol."

The Oregon State Police, acting on a tip from a local gun club official, opened an investigation into the allegation that he'd violated the background check law. A spokesperson there said the case is under review. Such a misdemeanor is punishable by up to a year in jail and a fine that could reach more than $6,000.

The man who has taken credit for tipping authorities — Kevin Starrett, executive director of the Oregon Firearms Federation — says he doesn't like the law, but seems to take some joy over the possibility it will be used to prosecute one of its proponents.

"If the pastor is prosecuted," Starrett said in a statement, "it will demonstrate the idiocy of the law and the people who passed it. If the pastor is not prosecuted, it will demonstrate that anti-gun liberals are above the law and it was only intended to hurt the average gun owner, against whom it could be selectively enforced."

Lucas, a law school graduate who worked as an attorney before turning to the church, said he supports the background check law. "Its intent is to keep someone from going out and buying a gun for someone else. I'm glad it's getting some publicity."

 

[clearconscience]

Case closed with no charges for pastor who won AR-15 in raffle

Of course not they only go after those on the other side of the aisle.

 

[Joe13]

Case closed with no charges for pastor who won AR-15 in raffle

Of course not they only go after those on the other side of the aisle.

Just don't advertise for attention like that shyster did and it's all good

 

[fxdc]

He is a registered Democrat, what did you think was gonna happen.

Free pass, no charges, just like Hillary!

WTF!

 

[rick benjamin]

The suspect's statement to the media that he gave it to someone for safe keeping is insufficient to prove that it did happen. Additionally the investigation fails to prove that even if the transfer did occur, that it was not to any of the permissible transferees," Foote's decision states.
Police said they were unable to secure a voluntary statement from Lucas and nobody came forward with the name of the person who received the rifle.

 

[clearconscience]

Now I know what to do.

Just refuse to talk, don't let them know where the gun is, and obviously register as an idiot,.... Err democrat

 

[Medic!]

He dose exist!

 

[Kruel J]

But did the rifle get "destroyed"? Or did the guy that "stored" it for him drop on a nice optic and maybe a trigger upgrade? Because no way did the hired storage want to give that to the paperclip factory!

 

[F2CMaDMaXX]

That report pretty much confirms how that law is/isn't being upheld, as well as what is needed in order to be able to process the charge successfully, despite publicity.

 

[Brutus57]

This is Total Crap, the rule of law for some citizens is failing. It's becoming Nazi Germany in the early 30s...if you are in the National Socialist Democratic Workers Party...you get a free pass. More conservative views??? Just forget your 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments, go directly to jail, do not collect $200.00. Unfrickin believable.

Brutus Out

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

how many of us here already knew this law was total crap from the get go? im guessing about 37,393 of us...

 

[pchewn]

I was surprised at a couple of things when reading the police investigation reports:

1) Some people are very willing to give info to the police. (The gun shop, the little league, etc.)
2) The people close to the suspect clearly have been coached and have their story straight. They don't know anything about the transfer, the gun is not part of the church but is a private matter with the pastor.
3) The pastor saying things to the newspaper is not "evidence".

 

[The Heretic]

That report pretty much confirms how that law is/isn't being upheld, as well as what is needed in order to be able to process the charge successfully, despite publicity.

You can bet that if they wanted to the OSP would have, could have, pressed the case.

The OSP is in the back pocket of the governors office and does whatever the governor tells them to.

Don't for a second think that they won't. If anything, this case proves that. The OSP is not independent of the politics in Salem, it is controlled by it. All the governor has to say is "jump" and the OSP won't even ask "how high?" they will just jump.

 

[Joe13]

Going after folks without a church and that kind of funding are much easier to get to plea bargain a deal for a shorter sentence...

 

[Quartermaster]

A precedent has been set