Man shoots down drone hovering over house

[clearconscience]

What about a compound bow with a cork tip?
Line or net tagging behind?

 

[jbett98]

It's just a matter of respect, or lack of lately.
Is it now permissible to open your neighbors car and rifle through the glove box, or open a strangers fence gate and wander around in their backyard.
Just because you have the ability to fly a camera in the air, doesn't give you the right to invade someones privacy.

 

[Provincial]

We have no idea how "into" his backyard the drone was. Law says he can fly it OVER the yard all he wants - you don't control airspace above your property. Commercial planes, drones, helicopters... law allows it.

Are you saying that the law, as it now exists, is right? That you should have no expectation of privacy in your fenced-in backyard? That if you do "roof inspections" that you should be legally empowered to check out the whole neighborhood, if that is your "hobby?"

I think that no one should be able to fly an unmanned object over a person's property below the FAA-approved altitude for manned aircraft without the permission of the property owner. Each unmanned object must be easily identifiable and traceable to it's owner, who must register it with the State.

As it stands now, it is open season for voyeurs!

 

[Camarobear]

The daughter was a 16 year old girl.

That means if the guys flying the drone were perving.... You have some sexual predators that should be put down.

I am sorry but not a parent here will stand idle while some sick freak is recording your child.

This brings up the big fact that drones allow predators to stalk women and children. All from a safe distance...

The men should have to hand over all video evidence. After an investigation we can charge the offending party.

If the drone guys were doing that... I wonder how many other young girls these men were stalking...

 

[JeremyK]

Merideth says he stood his ground: "I had my 40 mm Glock on me and they started toward me and I told them, 'If you cross my sidewalk, there's gonna be another shooting.'"

Argh!! He had a 40mm Glock??? Where do I get one of those?!

 

[Camarobear]

Your not man enough to even hear about the 40mm glock..

Its made with Unobtanium.... Which mere mortals like you all are not going to acquire..

However you could always be the snuggle buddy of one of those deities... I hear Thor has an opening for a Boyfriend.

 

[45alive]

I have a powerful, built in anti drone weapon!

Well........powerful anti camera weapon! I'll just strip and step out!

In this case it would work.They were ''MEN'' that were perverts into looking at teen girls. But if you were in a liberal fruitcake city like San Francisco in Californicate, where ''men?'' are perverts, it would not work. You would not only have just 1 spy Drone flying around, but a FLEET of Pink Drones flying around !

 

[The B]

Are you saying that the law, as it now exists, is right? That you should have no expectation of privacy in your fenced-in backyard? That if you do "roof inspections" that you should be legally empowered to check out the whole neighborhood, if that is your "hobby?"

I think that no one should be able to fly an unmanned object over a person's property below the FAA-approved altitude for manned aircraft without the permission of the property owner. Each unmanned object must be easily identifiable and traceable to it's owner, who must register it with the State.

As it stands now, it is open season for voyeurs!

No... there's no right to "privacy" when you're in public view. Being out under the sky, where aircraft can see you, there is no expectation of privacy. There is case law on this - how do you think police can legally surveil you on your property from the air (they can, if you didn't know)? And what about satellites? Have you ever looked at your property from Google Earth? Go check it out - if your daughter was sunbathing in your back yard that day, there she is for all the world to see.

I really don't understand this preoccupation with voyeurism. When there are thousands of legitimate use for this technology, and it's being used for those uses, why do many of you seem to think anyone flying a drone is a "perv??" Seems really paranoid... possibly indicative of repressed sexuality?

And lastly... There's certainly nothing in the ORS prohibiting taking pictures of 16 year old girls. Even in bathing suits. Possibly even fully nude (see definitions for pornography, indecency, and note the volume of child nudity readily available on the internet, completely legal in almost all of Western Civilization), if the photography isn't sexually graphic. I don't remember where this took place (not in Oregon, I don't think?), and it could be they've enacted some kind of strange photography-in-peoples-backyards-law, but I doubt it...

 

[jbett98]

If that's the case Ben, post your address here, and if someone starts to fly a drone in your backyard, let all of know how it feels to have images from your backyard and windows posted on the internet for all to see.

 

[The B]

If that's the case Ben, post your address here, and if someone starts to fly a drone in your backyard, let all of know how it feels to have images from your backyard and windows posted on the internet for all to see.

Before I deleted my Facebook page, you could see pictures of my entire life, home, family, business, and hobbies any time you wanted, on the internet. You still can see plenty from my wife's (hint: there aren't many Beckerichs out there).

Not gonna post my address here, but I'll point out that all you have to do is Google my name. Address and phone number will likely be on the first page, definitely by the second. Knock yourself out.

 

[RVTECH]

Before I deleted my Facebook page, you could see pictures of my entire life, home, family, business, and hobbies any time you wanted,

The difference being is you chose to post those pics - someone didn't take them and post them without your permission. A drone flying over my property within a stones' throwing distance is only there because someone is either curious about what I am doing, what I have to take (yea maybe 'casing' my property for a later burglary). Regardless it is trespassing and a and will be brought down.

 

[Roger65]

Before I deleted my Facebook page, you could see pictures of my entire life, home, family, business, and hobbies any time you wanted, on the internet. You still can see plenty from my wife's (hint: there aren't many Beckerichs out there).

Not gonna post my address here, but I'll point out that all you have to do is Google my name. Address and phone number will likely be on the first page, definitely by the second. Knock yourself out.

The FAA has outlawed the use of drones for commercial purposes. Realtors, building contractors, and all other commercial users are banned from using drones over a certain height. Without that law can you imagine what life would be like in a subdivision? Nothing but buzzing drones.

So it becomes a bit of a strain to think of a lawful reason those people were operating the drone, since drones are only legal for "recreational purposes" And if their recreation was peeping on women, well, we have a bigger problem.

 

[The B]

The difference being is you chose to post those pics - someone didn't take them and post them without your permission. A drone flying over my property within a stones' throwing distance is only there because someone is either curious about what I am doing, what I have to take (yea maybe 'casing' my property for a later burglary). Regardless it is trespassing and a and will be brought down.

If you're OK with exposing yourself to liability.

 

[The B]

The FAA has outlawed the use of drones for commercial purposes. Realtors, building contractors, and all other commercial users are banned from using drones over a certain height. Without that law can you imagine what life would be like in a subdivision? Nothing but buzzing drones.

So it becomes a bit of a strain to think of a lawful reason those people were operating the drone, since drones are only legal for "recreational purposes" And if their recreation was peeping on women, well, we have a bigger problem.

It's an FAA administrative rule, not a "law." FAA can't make laws.

And it's being wholly ignored - and realtors and contractors and inspectors ARE using them all over the place. Most don't even know about the administrative rule.

Likewise, local police don't enforce federal administrative regulations. If you've paid any attention to that whole discussion, you'll note that it's considered completely unenforceable and probably not even within the FAA's regulatory purview.

Like a lot of FAA and FCC regulations... nobody cares.

 

[Flopsweat]

Airspace above your property is not clearly defined just yet, but maybe this issue will eventually be the last push that we needed to get it done. Here's some background on the issue:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...metz_arrest_how_much_airspace_do_you_own.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_rights

I know, it's Slate and Wikipedia, but they are reasonably good articles and not excruciating to read...

 

[RVTECH]

If you're OK with exposing yourself to liability.

No more than I would be if I were using a weapon to defend myself and home against the unlawful entry by a person. A hovering drone is an act of trespass if it is being operated in manner that (and at such a low elevation)it is obviously 'looking' at something.

 

[jbett98]

Looking and recording.

 

[Provincial]

Ben, your lack of reading comprehension is showing. I didn't say it was against the law to fly a drone low over a backyard, I said it should be illegal. "Case law" is often in the wrong, and needs to be corrected by real laws.

The powers that be have an interest in reducing our legal expectation to privacy, for instance police spying. Your backyard isn't a public space except in the eye of the law. My proposals provide a means of regulating airspace below the normal altitude regulated by the FAA for manned flight. The FAA rules are unenforcable partially because there is no way to identify the drone and track it to the offender.

Criminals will still fly unregistered drones, but unregistered drones would be exempt from recovering damages if damaged or destroyed while in use. "If drones are registered, criminals will still have drones." But "Drone Self-Defense" would be an Affermative Defense for the homeowner!

 

[Flopsweat]

Ben, your lack of reading comprehension is showing. I didn't say it was against the law to fly a drone low over a backyard, I said it should be illegal. "Case law" is often in the wrong, and needs to be corrected by real laws.

The powers that be have an interest in reducing our legal expectation to privacy, for instance police spying. Your backyard isn't a public space except in the eye of the law. My proposals provide a means of regulating airspace below the normal altitude regulated by the FAA for manned flight. The FAA rules are unenforcable partially because there is no way to identify the drone and track it to the offender.

Criminals will still fly unregistered drones, but unregistered drones would be exempt from recovering damages if damaged or destroyed while in use. "If drones are registered, criminals will still have drones." But "Drone Self-Defense" would be an Affermative Defense for the homeowner!

You want to register quadcopters? I don't. There's got to be a better way.

 

[Certaindeaf]

There's a hush-hush hubbub about LE driving around and looking through walls as they drive around.
Expectation of privacy.. lol.