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I'm always impressed by your shenanigans
In Oregon you (currently) don't have to volunteer that info, unless first asked.Idaho has a separate license for a cwp. Interesting that it's tied to your plate. I have never been asked about carrying a weapon. But then again I am supposed to hand them my cwp when I get pulled over if I'm carrying.
They're regular people. I work with sanitation engineers, cops just happen to specialize in the bipedal meat sack kind.What are you people doing to warrant talking to the fuzz?
You can identify as whatever you like. I am an equal opportunity cynic.What if she wasn't a woman?
How does that work with a constitutional carry situation?Idaho has a separate license for a cwp. Interesting that it's tied to your plate. I have never been asked about carrying a weapon. But then again I am supposed to hand them my cwp when I get pulled over if I'm carrying.
I am not real remarkable. Back in CA, well I was dealing with some police harassment. Long story, that. The long and short of it, was it was a mess and they wanted me to testify my wife committed a crime she did not. In fact, there was no crime. My wife did CPR on an old man who died in the hospital after getting hit by the city bus. He died of his injuries that led to CPR. The officer was fixated on a broken rib, which may or may not have been from CPR. I got harassing calls, car pulled daily, etc. My wife did her job, end of story. I got pulled maybe 45 times during the 2 months of harassment.They all have a computer now and should be running the tag before they even get out. So they get the registered owners info. Guessing RO had a permit, license shows RO, so they ask. Now if you don't have a permit and they are asking maybe how you look? Do you have pro2A stickers on the vehicle or such?
Last time I interacted it was a break down on freeway. I was waiting for AAA. I had permit, license, Reg, insurance info, all ready as I figured some Trooper would stop. When I tried to hand it to the one who did she just waved it away. Sure she had run my tag. Just said she was checking to see if I was OK and when I said breakdown and AAA she waved and left.
Maybe cops are suspicious 'cause they aren't used to wombats that drive.I am not real remarkable. Back in CA, well I was dealing with some police harassment. Long story, that. The long and short of it, was it was a mess and they wanted me to testify my wife committed a crime she did not. In fact, there was no crime. My wife did CPR on an old man who died in the hospital after getting hit by the city bus. He died of his injuries that led to CPR. The officer was fixated on a broken rib, which may or may not have been from CPR. I got harassing calls, car pulled daily, etc. My wife did her job, end of story. I got pulled maybe 45 times during the 2 months of harassment.
A few years earlier I was involved in helping someone clean up their property after they were mistakenly raided by police. Also earned me some significant harassment in that locale. This one was significantly worse than the others as I was forced to exit the vehicle and be patted down repeatedly and during the patdowns this officer would be sure to make it painful By forcefully grabbing testicles and squeezing and yanking when doing it. I was a teen and this was before body cameras. I could have sued that predator, if I had known.
In Oregon, it has been a bad tail light. No harassment
My bumper stickers are usually "You have died of dysentery" with the Oregon trail wagon on it, or an Acme Anvil.
....AGAIN!!!!Or driving a top down convertible while stark naked….
That's not the main reason why LEO's touch your vehicle when approaching. It's to leave physical evidence on your vehicle in the event any harm comes to them or for additional proof of vehicle identification in the event other identifiers might not have been recorded or altered (like plates).One thing I noticed was he put his hand on the side of my truck to see if it was running as he walked up. It wasn't.
Well hell if it was fun the first few times you don't really expect him to stop doing it now do you?....AGAIN!!!!
Well hell if it was fun the first few times you don't really expect him to stop doing it now do you?
That sounds like a bit of a stretch in western OR/WA with the rainThat's not the main reason why LEO's touch your vehicle when approaching. It's to leave physical evidence on your vehicle in the event any harm comes to them or for additional proof of vehicle identification in the event other identifiers might not have been recorded or altered (like plates).
Kinda tough explaining why an injured/murdered officers fingerprints and DNA just happen to be on your vehicle... hu?
Well, there are other purposes. One being to startle a driver with the sound of them tapping your vehicle to test your reaction in response. It can also be to test that the trunk is properly latched and no suprises will come leaping out at them from behind.That sounds like a bit of a stretch in western OR/WA with the rain
Agreed.Hands on the wheel
Do not reach for anything
I will say this. Once you start talking and volunteering information (when they already know you have a CHL), human nature is that it is more difficult to know when to stop.until you tell him/her you have a CHL.
Let them take it from there and decide how they want to continue.
Make sure that he makes his partner aware
Be honest and straight forward
Everyone goes home safe and sound.
Before someone tells me that I do not have to inform the officer, I see as a way to keep his stress level down (BGs would never tell they were armed.)
While I agree in principle with what you replied I am not advocating having a chat with them. I wouldn't just dive my hand into my RR pocket (for my wallet) either.Agreed.
I will say this. Once you start talking and volunteering information (when they already know you have a CHL), human nature is that it is more difficult to know when to stop.
It also opens up potential lines of questioning that may have not even occured to the officer... until you brought it up. IE., Where is it?, Is it loaded/secured? etc.
None of which is germane to the traffic stop and could potentially lead down a path you don't want to go. How each officer might react to having the subject drug into the forefront to become a topic of discussion/inquiry... you simply don't know. Most will be cool about it, but others absolutely will not. IE., may ask you to exit your vehicle and want to secure your firearm before proceeding any further. That may also lead to being asked to consent to a search and/or pat down.
Don''t tell and they probably won't even ask. If they want to know... they'll ask.
IMHO, volunteering information is never helpful and more likely has the potential to do more harm than good. Not that it will... but why even open up the possibility?
Agreed. It's germane and prudent to alert a LEO of your intention and then to move at a deliberate/even pace.... I wouldn't just dive my hand into my RR pocket (for my wallet) either.