Homeland Security is buying ammo

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Steve06, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. Steve06

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    Maybe the Mexican drug cartels are running low.
     
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    Why would the government by .223? vs. 5.56. That is what the article reports.
     
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    maybe their gonna start doing their jobs now?
    or maybe because hezbollah is in mexico waiting to strike us?
     
  5. mjbskwim

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    That's not funny
     
  6. Mark W.

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    of corse they are they always are they have been since they came to being. Just like the FBI or the CIA buys ammo. They use ammo so they buy ammo. Nothing new nothing different nothing to worry about.
     
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    Because DHS is not DoD. DoD sucks up a very large majority of the 5.56 ammo created in the US. Easier and cheaper for them to buy .223.
     
  8. duran21

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    agents need to practice too.... home land security needs to buy ammo to practice.
     
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    Here would be my theory. Either the article was factually incorrect because most of the population doesn't know what 5.56 is but they do know what .223 is for and they wanted to get that message across . . . . . . or . . . . . . the ammo purchase is for five years worth of training and .223 is somewhat cheaper to use and at the distances they would be shooting the results may be insignificant.
     
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    To attack us here in United States... They will come house to house to collect all our riffles and hundguns.... Did you hear few weeks ago they bought all the 40 cals handgun ammo now they buying riffles ammos. Next they will buy all the gas and all the Utility Venhicle so they can run us all down... LOL this is just a joke... Please dont listen to rummor and go out hoard all the ammo :)
     
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    When I first read this I read it
    Homeland security IS BUYING AMMO!!
    You know "us' buying ammo is good for the USA's security? Which is true
     
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    We the People have bought many times more than that
     
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    Empowering the Militia, We the People is real Homeland security

    Big federal agencies with lots of guns, ammo and trigger pullers is anathema to our liberties
     
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    So in thinking this out... 450 million rounds of 40 cal / 5 years = 90 million rounds a year.

    US Border patrol has about 20,000 members who during annnual in service training sessions probably shoot more than 1000 rounds a year.... even at the low end of 1k per year... thats 20 million of those rounds.


    Leaving 70 million rounds unaccounted for.

    Im sure in the Customs side of the house which is about the same size.... numbers are similar.

    No we are down to about 50 million rounds unaccountable.

    Add in police academy training for new hires (probably about 2k/student), add special ops training.... then add the following other agencies and you get the idea that the ammo would go pretty quick.... those agencies incllude the US Coast Guard and Secret Service and ICE.


    From wiki on the USCG: As of August 2009[update] the Coast Guard had approximately 42,000 men and women on active duty, 7,500 reservists, 30,000 auxiliarists, and 7,700 full-time civilian employees.[4]


    In short.... probably not a government conspiracy.
     
  15. Dunerunner

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    But, my kind of stimulus!! Keep those ammunition factories in the US and employing Americans....I hope!!
     
  16. Navvet

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    For all you paranoid folks, here is the answer. The govt. places orders ahead of the new fiscal year. All Fed agencies carry the .40. The order is made in bulk and then shipped to a certain US ARMY fort for storage. If you think that is alot, consider this. CBP alone has 42,000 sworn officers. They qualify quarterly and it takes about 200 rounds or so during one training cycle so 200 x 42,000 x 4. That is the needs for one agency for one year. Plus they get 150 rounds of practice ammo. There are 21 agencies just in homeland security. FBI has 11,000 agents. This is not counting all the academies where you shot all day for about 2 weeks. Once you see the magnitude of the 40 cal shot, you will say how do they get away with such little ammo usage. I was in the Blaine area and we never had enough ammo and always had to be careful. There is a simple answer to what seems like a conspiracy.
     
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    They have put in the order for an "indefinite delivery of an indefinite quantity" over the next five years. Congress may not even fund the purchase, while they maybe buying 450 million, they may also purchase 100 million or even *gasp* 0, if they don't get the funding. All they are doing is locking in a price for a possible future purpose. It's also a purchase that can be made over 5 years, not in one lump sum

    Also, if they ended up making the total purchase of 450 million, how is this equates to 1.44 bullets per person in the USA. That isn't near enough to attack or invade or occupy the USA
     
  18. Mark W.

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    No but if you gloss over the facts and pull your tin foil hat down real tight and only write in vague generalities with a light sprinkling of made up inuendos. You can get a bunch of other tin foil hat wearers to run out and start panic buying up ammo. Not really sure the advantage there but think of all the fun they can have watching it happen.
     
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    The big conspiracy is out in the open for all to see.. loss of our national independence and world government, loss of our last liberties. DSHS should not exist in the first place, that is my primary point. It was created out of false flag fear mongering and an ages old conspiracy, itself
     
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    I will take the hat over having my head stuck in the sand
     

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