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7-08 is a fine cartridge and if I could turn back the hands of time, I'd take up my dad's offer to get a (then brand spanking new) Model 7 in 7-08.The 7mm-08 punches waaaay above its weight.
I've killed 14 elk and not one of them would have been killed less if I had used a 7mm-08 instead of a different cartridge. Easy to shoot means easier to shoot well, I believe.
Go back to post #31.7-08 is a fine cartridge and if I could turn back the hands of time, I'd take up my dad's offer to get a (then brand spanking new) Model 7 in 7-08.
However, did I read your post right?
You herald the talents of the 7-08 by citing 14 elk you've killed with (I'm assuming) a whole bunch of different rounds, not one of them being the 7-08?
7mm Rem Mag too.Ron Spomer recently made the case quite well as to how versatile the 06 really is .
7mm Rem Mag too.
My bestie has always maintained that the 7mmag is the ultimate in versatility, and he not only has the record to back it, but makes a powerful case for it, even I cannot argue against it! Still, the .30/06 is my do all, go to for everything, and if I only had one, that would be it!7mm Rem Mag too.
My bestie has always maintained that the 7mmag is the ultimate in versatility, and he not only has the record to back it, but makes a powerful case for it, even I cannot argue against it! Still, the .30/06 is my do all, go to for everything, and if I only had one, that would be it!
I use 7 Remington mag and .308 because I have rifles in those calibers. First for elk second for deer. Although most seasons I use arrows. If I had to pick one, it would be either 30-06 or .308. I think they are most versatile and available. 150 grain to 165 grain is more than adequate for anything but moose and will give you decent distance It also won't kill your shoulder. Good luck.
Gotcha.Go back to post #31.
No worries. Did you skip that post the first time through? I thought I was clear but maybe not.Gotcha.
Its just that the way you wrote that, it sounded like none of those were shot with 7-08.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Read the extracts from Chapter II and Chapter X. Keep in mind his favorite elephant cartridge was the 7mm Rigby Mauser (aka 7x57mm Mauser, ballistic twin to the 7mm-08).If you cant kill it with a 30-06 you probably shouldn't be hunting it. If it's big enough for an elephant it's big enough for an elk. Plus you can get ammo almost anywhere on earth.
Read the extracts from Chapter II and Chapter X. Keep in mind his favorite elephant cartridge was the 7mm Rigby Mauser (aka 7x57mm Mauser, ballistic twin to the 7mm-08).
“Karamojo” Bell on Rifles: In His Own Words
Every time the question of what rifle springs up, someone’s bound to say it: Karamojo Bell killed a thousand elephants with an .256. Did he really?blog.bookyourhunt.com
Some call outs:
"Sometimes I used one and sometimes the other, and it began to dawn on me that when an elephant was hit in the right place with the .275 it died just as quickly as when hit with the .400, and, vice versa, when the bullet from either rifle was wrongly placed death did not ensue."
"I have never been able to appreciate "shock" as applied to killing big game. It seems to me that you cannot hope to kill an elephant weighing six tons by " shock " unless you hit him with a field gun. And yet nearly all writers advocate the use of large bores as they "shock" the animal so much more than the small bores. They undoubtedly "shock" the firer more, but I fail to see the difference they are going to make to the recipient of the bullet."
Remember, placement is everything and knockdown power is a myth.
So you're saying in the right hands the 7mm Mauser is sufficient?To be fair , WDM Bell also used FMJ or solid bullets in his rifles , and shot them in the brain. He was very careful about shot placement, and he also dispatched a great number of Elephants with a 308 late in his career.
He was quoted as saying soft tip bullets never fouled the bore of his rifle during his hunting career .
It is also worth nothing that no small number of other hunters died trying to replicate his methods using a small bore rifle . He had nerves of steel , a steady hand and knew how to hunt not just pull a trigger.
NopeSo you're saying in the right hands the 7mm Mauser is sufficient?