Got any plans for the Pistol Brace apocalypse?

[billdeserthills]

Pays to be sober. Haha

Not really, if you buy a new 2026 car it will be paid for by yourself, sober or not

 

[nwslopoke]

Pistol braces are a gimmick. Form 1 SBR and I never looked back.

I built my pistol in 2016. It's not like SBRs are not without rules. Within those rules, including pre braces, pistols were easier to move about and had legal benefits. Today, pistols are still legal. It shouldn't really be an argument just a preference.

 

[Member 53328]

I built my pistol in 2016. It's not like SBRs are not without rules. Within those rules, including pre braces, pistols were easier to move about and had legal benefits. Today, pistols are still legal. It shouldn't really be an argument just a preference.

Well those dangerous "high capacity mags" aren't. Haha.

I could care less if people have braces. But if we are honest, people run braces so they can have a "SBR" with less restrictions and no tax stamp. If you just want an AR pistol then just toss the brace. It should matter anyway if the "pistol" is the important part.

People are mad about the braces cause now shouldering the "pistol" isn't as convenient or comfortable.

 

[Member 53328]

Not really, if you buy a new 2026 car it will be paid for by yourself, sober or not

My taxes go to dumber sh!t than this. I'm really not surprised.

 

[billdeserthills]

My taxes go to dumber sh!t than this. I'm really not surprised.

I'm sure we can thank our insurance companies

 

[sobo]

Just wait until you see the built-in breathalyzer in your new 2026 car

The Infrastructure Bill Requires New Cars To Come With Unproven Drunk Driving Detection Technology

As early as 2026, new cars will have to come equipped with "advanced drunk and impaired driving prevention technology."

reason.com

Pays to be sober. Haha

Well, yeah... what's "just one more" infringement?

 

[Member 53328]

I'm sure we can thank our insurance companies

I hate drunk drivers. And driving is a privilege not a right. I'd actually be ok with proving sobriety before getting on the road. Of course there would be ways around it. That may not be a popular opinion. Whatever.

If your sober and behind the wheel what does it matter? Or are we going to argue for driving under the influence.

You'll just have to drink after you blow. Road sodas anyone?

 

[sobo]

Pistol braces are a gimmick. Form 1 SBR and I never looked back.

I built my pistol in 2016. It's not like SBRs are not without rules. Within those rules, including pre braces, pistols were easier to move about and had legal benefits. Today, pistols are still legal. It shouldn't really be an argument just a preference.

Exactly! I can take my AR pistols out of state without having the required "permission slip" to take an SBR out of state...

 

[billdeserthills]

I hate drunk drivers. And driving is a privilege not a right. I'd actually be ok with proving sobriety before getting on the road. Of course there would be ways around it. That may not be a popular opinion. Whatever.

If your sober and behind the wheel what does it matter? Or are we going to argue for driving under the influence.

You'll just have to drink after you blow. Road sodas anyone?

I have no objection to people who have been found guilty of driving while under the influence being forced to buy a breathalyzer, but I do object to being forced to prove my innocence before even being found guilty & forcing me to pay for it in a higher-priced car is just another slap in the face

 

[Member 53328]

I have no objection to people who have been found guilty of driving while under the influence being forced to buy a breathalyzer, but I do object to being forced to prove my innocence before even being found guilty & forcing me to pay for it in a higher-priced car is just another slap in the face

I can agree with that

 

[Member 53328]

Exactly! I can take my AR pistols out of state without getting the required "permission slip" one needs to have in order to do the same thing with an SBR.

Exactly. So just take the brace off. You still have the pistol. IF the ATF goes that route.

 

[sobo]

I'm sure we can thank our insurance companies

And the politicians mentioned in the Reason article, too. Remember, a politician is nothing without passing something stoopit...

 

[sobo]

I have no objection to people who have been found guilty of driving while under the influence being forced to buy a breathalyzer, but I do object to being forced to prove my innocence before even being found guilty & forcing me to pay for it in a higher-priced car is just another slap in the face

Precisely my point, belief, and reason for down-voting this bullshiit. I'm not the one driving drunk, and being forced to prove I'm not is an insult and an affront.

 

[sobo]

Exactly. So just take the brace off. You still have the pistol. IF the ATF goes that route.

That's what I'll do, IF the AFT bans them.

 

[Member 53328]

That's what I'll do, IF the AFT bans them.

Personally I think the brace, bump stock, etc are all gimmicks/work around. With that said I don't think people should be restricted from having them.

I can personally still think they are stupid though. Haha.

 

[sobo]

Personally I think the brace, bump stock, etc are all gimmicks/work around.

I disagree.

With that said I don't think people should be restricted from having them.

I agree.

I can personally still think they are stupid though. Haha.

I agree. We are free to think as we will. So far...

 

[Member 53328]

I disagree.

I agree.

I agree. We are free to think as we will. So far...

If they aren't work around me then what are they? That's a real/serious question. Not trying to be an a$$ like normal.

 

[Kruel J]

If they aren't work around me then what are they? That's a real/serious question. Not trying to be an a$$ like normal.

They are 100% a workaround. I can guaran-damn-tee you that 999/1000 braces purchased were purchased with the SOLE intent oF shouldering it.

I did the same thing as everyone else for a short time. Then I decided to go SBR because I didn't like the rules on what I can or can't mount to it. Now that I can run any true stock I want and compliment that with any VFG I want the gun feels, shoots and handles better than it ever could as a "pistol".

As far as crossing state lines with it…..I do it all the time on the way to my gun range. And?

 

[BluesReds]

No one cares about binary triggers. FRT triggers sure because if you know how they work yeah, they pretty much are machine guns. [...] Short Barrel Rifles ? Theyve been illegal without a form 1 or 4 for a long time.

FRTs only fire one round per function of the trigger. They should be completely legal by the plain reading of the law. If the ATF doesn't like it they don't get to just make up a new twisted interpretation of whatever they feel like. Congress passes laws, ATF can only enforce them.

I feel the need to point out that the only historical reason we have SBR/SBS laws is because congress tried to ban all handguns and then, when the backlash was too great, reversed their decision but neglected to remove the short barreled language meant to prevent people from turning long guns into hand guns to circumvent their handgun ban.

 

[Heyjoe]

Personally I think the brace, bump stock, etc are all gimmicks/work around. With that said I don't think people should be restricted from having them.

I can personally still think they are stupid though. Haha.

I think braces are the result of stupid laws, without stupid laws the stupid braces don't exist.