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Sucks for Oregon and especially Washington, but nationally, just remember...

-Bill Clinton lost 52 seats in the House
-Bush lost 30 seats in the House
-Barack Obama lost 70 seats in the House (more than any president since Truman) AND lost 13 senate seats

So look at the bright side, there was no blue wave.

We have the presidency, solidified the hold on the Senate and constitutionalist majority in the SCOTUS with possibly another justice nomination on the way. Trump will stack the courts (look at the nutty 9th). The unhinged Dims are emboldened and will continue to show their true colors via the likes of Pelosi & Waters for the next two years and shoe-in Trump for in 2020.
 
things I find repulsive ( lying and lack of loyalty are two )

not to foment any frenzied riposte/etc.....I've long sought clear definition from various individuals about the very same thing....to date never have had precise clarification of a simple inquiry without generating far more heat that light.

Seems more like intense 'caliber partisanship' than rational definitions. Or 'x-make pickup' vs 'y-make pickup'.

I tried watching obama speak a couple times in the last week.
His version of events amply demonstrate the notion of 'difference of opinion'.
 
The best the dems could come up with is, we hate Trump and will run counter to all of his policies. They don't bring anything new to the table and enough people bit on that. The dems also put enough money to end homelessness into the candidates they want to run for president in 2020.

In the meantime the PNW will parrot every bad gun grabbing law they can from across the nation. By some small miracle Oregon has outlasted them all.

It's not that Kate Brown is afraid to bring them. She either hasn't heard of it yet or there's a 10 y/o she hasn't used in a photo op she has to get to first. It's called priorities. Here's a little secret. (Whisper) She doesn't know what her job is.
 
Second Amendment Preservation Ordinance to protect gun rights PASSED IN 7 correction 8 of 10 Counties in Oregon.

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Second Amendment Preservation Ordinance to protect gun rights PASSED IN 7 of 10 Counties in Oregon.
I believe its pro second A citizens only hope at this point, it is a play out of the anti's playbook.....they go around federal laws by hacking at us state by state, we need to get around the Anti metropolitan zip codes controll........ county by county
additionally the more counties that get onboard the more powerful our legal position will be
 
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Can someone send me some rose colored glasses? Apparently this is Trump's definition of a "successful night":

Between 27-35 House seats flipped to Democrat control
7-8 Governor's seats flipped to Democrat control
7 states flipped to full Democrat control in state legislatures

Granted, this is how midterms historically go. Voters punish the party in power. But saying last night was a "success" is like leaving your house with both legs, coming back only with one leg, and saying you're winning because you can use crutches instead of a wheelchair.
 
All of the good Oregon ballot measures failed. At least with 102 passing you will get more low income housing in Urban areas, unfortunately your tax dollars will be subsidizing it.
 
All of the good Oregon ballot measures failed. At least with 102 passing you will get more low income housing in Urban areas, unfortunately your tax dollars will be subsidizing it.

It's times like this I envy the well-diggers-butt-cold-in-winter part of Oregon you guys come from!
 
It's about to get ugly boys and girls!
Not sure where we go from here? The State of Oregon has just been handed unchecked power and will certainly use to restrict as many rights as possible.
Idaho on my mind...

Buehler was a decidedly lackluster candidate. We need to refrain from crying in our beer, and start organizing NOW. Brown is under investigation for corruption, on several fronts. We need to get involved and push it in any way we can. With a LOT of luck and hard work, we could get her replaced with Dennis Richardson, if he has not succumbed to cancer. We need peaceful protests, town halls with our state reps, call and write state reps, repeatedly, and most of all, develop some energetic and charismatic leaders. We are now, the oppressed, we have rights, and we need to push them! We need to refer to the 2ndA, accurately, as a Civil Right.
 
Looking at the map of which counties voted red vs. blue,its the same old story.
The State of Jefferson needs to happen NOW!
All of the ballot measures began with petitions and organization.And they passed-so could the State of Jefferson.
I believe it's a very long shot, but I'm going to be dedicating a lot of my energy toward this goal from here on out.

I refuse to live under the thumb of Socialism/Communism/Nazism, or whatever the correct term of the day is.
I'm old enough to remember the "good old days",and I'm also old enough to realize that there are worse things than being dead.

People need to get off their a$$e$ and stop worrying about their favorite sports team. Turn off the TV and do something productive. Forget about your cushy retirement plan.
Stop forgoing your principles for convenience.
Personally, I spend thousands per month on whatever I feel necessary. What is the point of saving your worthless cash?
So some ungrateful heir can enjoy it?
So the state can confiscate it for taxes?

Whatever..I'm worked up to a froth right now and no longer making a point.

Tirade over.
 
Well, We are Royally Screwed here in OryGun! First of all, I would just like to thank all of you who voted for KATE by voting third party, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! Yea, i'm that guy today! I Cannot help but wonder just how far down the rabbit hole this state is about to slide, and with 4 more years of nothing but Pure unfiltered Run Amook Democrap control and the orgy of destruction of our rights about to ensue, all I can say is grab yer ankles and kiss your arse good by!
 
funny....thats why we hated obama

Unlimited reasons to hate Obummer!

I tried watching obama speak a couple times in the last week.

Just can't do it... I hate the sound of his voice. Maybe Netflix will give him another $50M so he can continue to run around and spout even more than Bill Clinton!

Second Amendment Preservation Ordinance to protect gun rights PASSED IN 7 of 10 Counties in Oregon.

I'm still trying to find out if it passed in Union County... anybody know?

All of the good Oregon ballot measures failed. At least with 102 passing you will get more low income housing in Urban areas, unfortunately your tax dollars will be subsidizing it.

More low income housing is good how? It seems to me that it encourages people in their shiftless ways and may also encourage homeless to migrant to our blue population centers from other states. We are in the midst of migration north and west. :(
 
not to foment any frenzied riposte/etc.....I've long sought clear definition from various individuals about the very same thing....to date never have had precise clarification of a simple inquiry without generating far more heat that light.

Seems more like intense 'caliber partisanship' than rational definitions. Or 'x-make pickup' vs 'y-make pickup'.

I tried watching obama speak a couple times in the last week.
His version of events amply demonstrate the notion of 'difference of opinion'.
I dislike liars, bullies and those that do not support the cons
Well, We are Royally Screwed here in OryGun! First of all, I would just like to thank all of you who voted for KATE by voting third party, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! Yea, i'm that guy today! I Cannot help but wonder just how far down the rabbit hole this state is about to slide, and with 4 more years of nothing but Pure unfiltered Run Amook Democrap control and the orgy of destruction of our rights about to ensue, all I can say is grab yer ankles and kiss your arse good by!
Uraki - how about putting blame where it belongs the Republicans had a crap candidate in Buehler - I did not vote for Brown or Buehler because neither one held my respect. To say a vote for a third party hurt Buehler is ignorant. It treated Beuhler and Brown equally neither counted my vote.
 
Would you have any details on that? I'm not even remotely surprised in this state, but I am curious about specifics. Thanks.

I will look for it. She is being investigated for extorting $518k for her campaign from state vendors, to gain state contracts. Using state workers for her campaign, on state paid time. Using state funds to pay for her law license. And, I believe, state funds for a trip, poss to Costa Rica. I believe I saw the reference on this forum somewhere, but do not know how to search for it. Something also about designating 52 state workers as lobbyists.
 
Supporting a third party with ZERO chance in hell of winning just handed the win to BROWN! THAT'S WHERE THE BLAME TRULY LIES!

We all know Knute was 2 deg above worthless, but we also know full what KATE IS, so...................................
You can finish that thought if you like, But Pointing fingers does nothing, making statements about not having a perfect candidate does nothing. YOU HAD YOUR VOTE, and YOU WASTED IT because of some nobel notion of conscious or respect!
Were well past the soap box, and the ballot box, so pass the ammo box and lets get to work!
 
Supporting a third party with ZERO chance in hell of winning just handed the win to BROWN! THAT'S WHERE THE BLAME TRULY LIES!

We all know Knute was 2 deg above worthless, but we also know full what KATE IS, so...................................
You can finish that thought if you like, But Pointing fingers does nothing, making statements about not having a perfect candidate does nothing. YOU HAD YOUR VOTE, and YOU WASTED IT because of some nobel notion of conscious or respect!
Were well past the soap box, and the ballot box, so pass the ammo box and lets get to work!
I disagree - that is your opinion. What you mean is that I should have gave my support to a worthless Republican in order to prevent a worthless Democrat from winning. I voted for the candidate that most represented my position. Someday I would like to see a three party election..
 

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