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Whoever the shoe fits.Wait, are you speaking of the government/nanny state types or some of the folks here...?
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Whoever the shoe fits.Wait, are you speaking of the government/nanny state types or some of the folks here...?
People!
People!
Learn to low crawl into the woods after you jump out your moving vehicle.
Once you get into the woods you can stand up and sssshhhhh, quiet as a wabbit, tippy toe though the woods to your hearts content.
Whoever the shoe fits.
Meanwhile Florida tried a soft opening for their beaches and were overwhelmed with people ignoring social distancing.
I'm "extremely angry" that I haven't seen my dad in a month. That my business has taken a HUGE hit. That I hear people talking about how great it will be if .gov pushes through another stimulus so they can get more free money. That our economy is on the verge of a total collapse that will take YEARS to recover.
To me, there are about 1000 things to be more angry about then the damn forests being closed.
I think it's less due to abuse of power and more due to overreaction of what happened at the beaches etc. Closing fishing and the forests is just plain stupid, no question. But I think it's due to an overreaction of poeple swamping the beaches and public parks. The states said "let's close everything so that doesn't happen again" (my guess, no inside info or anything like that).
I so livid about this abuse of power. How in the F are they going to close the outdoors?!
For social distancing? This is exactly social distancing.
if there is a stay at home order then that should apply to the 1000 people at home depot everyday, or costco, or fred meyer, etc etc.
This is about controlling the populace, punishing people, and screwing the people who they know are outdoorsmen or sportsman.
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I think it's less due to abuse of power and more due to overreaction of what happened at the beaches etc. Closing fishing and the forests is just plain stupid, no question. But I think it's due to an overreaction of poeple swamping the beaches and public parks. The states said "let's close everything so that doesn't happen again" (my guess, no inside info or anything like that).
We all know that indisciplined rabble swamping the beaches is not going to happen on a boat in the middle of the Columbia, or a gravel pit in the woods, so it is stupid for sure. Also I wonder if they are thinking if they close areas then more state employees can work at home and not have to manage those areas?
Again not trying to justify what they r doing because i think it is brainless. Just trying to think about why they did it.
What I don't understand is why fishing is closed. There are boats, canoes and jet skiers out on the water.
Perfect. Strict, yet lenient.Look people, it's simple - the media/government has been very clear
The Corona Rules:
1. Basically, you can't leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.
2. Masks are useless, but maybe you have to wear one, it can save you, it is useless, but maybe it is mandatory as well. Or not.
3. Stores are closed, except those that are open.
4. You should not go to hospitals unless you have to go there. Same applies to doctors, you should only go there in case of emergency, provided you are not too sick.
5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster. But it's not that bad really.
6. Gloves won't help, but they can still help.
7. Everyone needs to stay HOME, but it's important to GO OUT.
8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.
9. The virus has no effect on children except those it affects.
10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…
11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms. Oh, my..
12. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand and it's better not to go out, well, but no…
13. It's better to get some fresh air, but you get looked at very wrong when you get some fresh air, and most importantly, you don't go to parks or walk. But don't sit down, except that you can do that now if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant (but not too old).
14. You can't go to retirement homes, but you have to take care of the elderly and bring food and medication.
15. If you are sick, you can't go out, but you can go to the pharmacy.
16. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn't wear masks or gloves. But you have to have your groceries decontaminated outside for 3 hours. Pizza too?
17. Every disturbing article or disturbing interview starts with " I don't want to trigger panic, but…"
18. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but you can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.
19. You can walk around with a friend but not with your family if they don't live under the same roof.
20. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can't go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.
21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn't say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.
22. The virus stays in the air - well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay at the recommended social distance, however in certain circumstances you should maintain a greater distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.
23. We count the number of deaths but we don't know how many people are infected as we have only tested so far those who were "almost dead" to find out if that's what they will die of… except the ones we didn't test we just guessed.
24. We have no treatment, except that there may be one that apparently is not dangerous unless you take too much (which is the case with all medications).
25. We should stay locked up until the virus disappears, but it will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity, so when it circulates… but we must no longer be locked up for that?
. Because some numb nuts is going to get himself into trouble and require help. Reality is, you can go out into the woods. Just don't need any help or you may have a very large tab to pay. Of course, then you would really feel like you are being punished.
Might be all those fishermen that stand shoulder to shoulder on a river snagging salmon...
Or all the unsuccessful fishermen standing around my boat at the ramp gawking at the days catch... ... they are obviously not gonna observe social distancing.
I am not saying to go out and ignore laws and regulations....
But if one does get the urge to go outside and play :
Stay away from "hotspots" ...like trail heads , main entrances , popular trails , etc...
Go alone...or with a small select group...
Stay quiet...Both when outside and no "Blabbing" about it later....
Carry on.
They may, have to hope maybe, getting some push back for some LEO's. Most who take this line of work are great. There are always a few jerks, it's life. Most at the start I am sure believed the same panic crap we all did. Then it got impossible to hide that those in power knew full well they were wrong and began flat out lying. Now I would hope some LEO's are no longer willing to "just follow orders" because they are told too. The people in power who want to control can only do so if the people in enforcement under them will follow their orders.I posted about this right when the first restrictions were put in place. The state police were patrolling OHV areas here in Central Oregon by air and directing ground troopers in to violators. They do their job as told, nothing personal most are great people.
I have not noticed any of this going on in the last 3 weeks, so maybe something changed, but you are being watched out even in the most remote spots you might think.
Unbelievable!!!!I posted about this right when the first restrictions were put in place. The state police were patrolling OHV areas here in Central Oregon by air and directing ground troopers in to violators. They do their job as told, nothing personal most are great people.
I have not noticed any of this going on in the last 3 weeks, so maybe something changed, but you are being watched out even in the most remote spots you might think.